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Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

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Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:17 am
by vpopovic
I want to edit my previous post. I'm not sometimes stupid. I'm always stupid :)

However, good or bad play, I enjoy every single stone put on goban (either virtual or real). This game give me so much joy.

I don't have so much time for studying it, but, I'm giving my best :)

Somehow, I'm not even so much frustrated as earlier when I make a mistake. I took it as a part of a learning process.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:05 am
by Toge
I took the liberty to review your latest game. One of the problems is (mental) attachment to existing stones. Your post above shows positive attitude towards the game.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:27 pm
by vpopovic
I really, really, really have to learn to let go stones if it's better for me in a given situation.
Thank you, Toge.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:48 am
by vpopovic
Well, I tried to play games during my work. As it can be imagined, full game lasts around an hour and for me it's impossible to dedicate so much time at once, without being severly disturbed around ten times. That resulted in numerous stupid mistakes and loses.

So, I decided not to play for the sake of playing, but, when I play, I have to be sure to give my best, without distractions.
From now on, it's gonna be one or two games in the evening and as much tsumego as I can during the day plus some reading.

Started again from the beginning, Graded Go Problems for Beginners I, and finished it in an hour and a half.
Moving to GGPFB II.
Easy tsumego is fun and good for self confidence, at least in my case.

Cheers.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:25 am
by vpopovic
Right now, I'm halfway to 8k.

www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=vladimir

It's much harder to advance then I imagined. But, despite all stupid mistakes I regulary make, I feel a little bit stronger then 3 weeks ago, when I started this thread. I guess tsumego has something to do with it.

Another notice: 2 times happened to me to be crushed by 8k's and to play with them again couple of weeks after that and to win. Very good feeling. Something like a revenge :)

Btw, I'm trying to resist the urge to play when I'm not sure if I'll have enough time for the game. But, very often, this need to play is overwhelming and I play stupid and lose due to constraints. I'll have to work on resisting the need to play. Just don't know how :)

Cheers

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:29 am
by jts
I suggest you channel those times into blitz games, or 9x9 games, or more tsumego.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 9:48 am
by Bill Spight
It is difficult to play with distractions. I second the idea of tsumego, since you enjoy it. :)

I used to study tsumego on the subway. :)

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:30 am
by Boidhre
Tsumego mix well with the short periods of free time you get with young children. If you have a smartphone or tablet you can find AIs that can play dan level 9x9 go for quick 10 minute games. Quite handy for a quick fix. AIs on smartphones/tablets are pretty feeble at 19x19 though in comparison. Maybe mid-strong sdk level at best.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:29 pm
by vpopovic
@jts @bill @boidhre Thank you for those advices.

I took mobile versions of Cho's Enciklopedias from http://tsumego.tasuki.org/ and I use them on my smartphone when I have short gaps of free time.

I browse through goproblems.com regulary and Graded Go Problems for Beginners on my desktop, too.

Regarding playing with bots, I've got Champion Go installed (Crazy Stones is iOS name of the program) but I never used it much since I'm not aware which kind of habits I'm gonna develop if I play with bots (even strong ones as Crazy Stones algorithm is). I would like if anybody can write a few words on low sdk player playing with bots and habits developed from that.

@jts I never seriously considered blitz or 9x9 games. After your post, I definitely will. Thank you.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:28 am
by Boidhre
I've not found any good tsumego app for Android. I rely on books/the iPad if I'm away from home. Books are cheaper than an iPad so consider something like 1001 Life & Death for easy-medium tsumego for you right now, Graded Go Problems 3 or 4 (4 might be a bit too hard depending on your reading), Get Strong at Life and Death (most of the problems should be fairly easy but easy problems are important too and a section of the problems will be nicely challenging). Essential Life and Death 3 is interesting for tougher problems around our level, volume 2 for easier problems. For at home on the desktop, I like GoChild a lot more than GoProblems.com. You have to pay a small fee for the year with GoChild though to access the non-beginner problems and the UI/sound may annoy you. There are other books and websites, these are just what I'm using at the moment.

On bad habits, while I'm fairly sure it's possible or probably to pick up bad habits from strong bots, I'm at a loss as to why one wouldn't pick up bad habits from other 8/9k players. :P

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:18 am
by Bonobo
For desktop Tsumego I also like http://www.321go.org/. It’s in Dutch but very easy to understand even if you (like me) hardly know any Nederlands.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:27 pm
by Boidhre
Bonobo wrote:For desktop Tsumego I also like http://www.321go.org/. It’s in Dutch but very easy to understand even if you (like me) hardly know any Nederlands.


You can click the little British flag to get the site's English translation. :)

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:43 pm
by Bonobo
Boidhre wrote:
Bonobo wrote:For desktop Tsumego I also like http://www.321go.org/. It’s in Dutch but very easy to understand even if you (like me) hardly know any Nederlands.


You can click the little British flag to get the site's English translation. :)


Uhm … :o -> :oops: -> :shock: -> :lol: -> thank you :-)

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:49 pm
by karaklis
Bonobo wrote:Uhm … :o -> :oops: -> :shock: -> :lol: -> thank you :-)

Besides, it's also available in German (and a few other languages as well).

However since the Dutch version is the primary version, the latest tsumego and course chapters are probably only available in Dutch.

Re: Project Shodan, KGS nick - Vladimir

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 2:55 am
by vpopovic
Bonobo wrote:For desktop Tsumego I also like http://www.321go.org/. It’s in Dutch but very easy to understand even if you (like me) hardly know any Nederlands.


Thx. I'll check it out.
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