after playing couple games after a long brake
this is the game that interest me the most.. as my rank strangely boost up
so would someone analyze/review the game for me? i hope i got good lesson from this game
Ades/Me (W) vs (B)
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:14 am
by EdLee
The game was Ades, W, 11k, versus AKANE44111, B, 12k.
Your username here is glyps, which is neither. 11k and 12k are very close.
Were you Ades ? You want to think about from the audience's (forum members' ) perspective: we don't know whether you were B or W.
Just like we learn from Go, you want to also think from the other person's perspective.
Re:
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:25 am
by glyps
EdLee wrote:The game was Ades, W, 11k, versus AKANE44111, B, 12k.
Your username here is glyps, which is neither. 11k and 12k are very close.
Were you Ades ?
yes, i changed my game id, sorry for not adding that info earlier
thanks for the review btw, im very grateful
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:29 am
by EdLee
Hi glyps, Ades,
When you 'quote' a post, you don't need to include the entire SGF.
Again: think from the audience's (forum members' ) perspective.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:30 am
by EdLee
Hi glyps, Ades,
You're welcome. You may want to use the Preview button to preview your post before you Submit --
take a look at your post, look at it from the audience's perspective. (Then you probably would not include the SGF. )
Re:
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:32 am
by glyps
EdLee wrote:Hi glyps, Ades,
When you 'quote' a post, you don't need to include the entire SGF.
Again: think from the audience's (forum members' ) perspective.
ah yea, that was my mistake, i'll remove it by now
Re: A Game Vs. 12k
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:37 am
by skydyr
Are you white or black in the game?
Re: A Game Vs. 12k
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:44 am
by glyps
skydyr wrote:Are you white or black in the game?
im white.. i already write it out there just now
"Ades/Me (W) vs (B)"
Re: A Game Vs. 12k
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:24 am
by oca
@edLee
on move 19 : "Wrong shape. This allows W to connect under with (a). See var."
As this was not direcly obvious to see at my level (or at least for me ), I tryied to prove that for myself and came with the following sequence. Are they correct or am I missing something ?
$$W Wrong shape, so W can connect
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . O X X X 4 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X 3 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------
[go]$$W
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . O X X X X . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X 3 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 1 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:06 am
by EdLee
Hi oca,
Your third variation is interesting. Did you consider if W resists with at (a) ?
Locally, it does look terrible for W. But, globally, we need to look at the group.
Can you find another move for ?
oca wrote:
$$W try 2
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . O X X B X . a . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O O O X 3 O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 1 2 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------
), I tryied to prove that for myself and came with the following sequence. Are they correct or am I missing something ?
in your variation, did you consider 
and 
?
string is suddenly down to only 2 liberties !
Can you find a better local move than your 
and 
at (a) ?
group.
instead of (a)
...