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on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:10 pm
by cyclops
The symmetry of Go is the symmetry of a square. Square stones reflect that.
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:35 pm
by DrStraw
The circle has more axes of symmetry than any other shape. I think the board should be round.
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:32 am
by cyclops
Very funny indeed
Still I wonder what a goban tiled like my bathroom with square stones would do with my perception of the game. Is there any Go software that has square stones as an option?
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:50 am
by oca
DrStraw wrote:The circle has more axes of symmetry than any other shape. I think the board should be round.
Why not taking a "standard goban" and change the rules of the game so that we have a "border wrap"
$$B
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . a . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 . . . , . . . 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . , . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 4 X . . . |
$$ +-------------------+
- Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . a . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 . . . , . . . 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . , . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 4 X . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

and

would then be a nobi shape...

would be catured if black plays at "a"
That's actually a sphere goban...
[edit]I post that as I just solved the 19x19 yesterday night so I need something more challenging now
ok... end of dreaming, back to study

...
[/edit]
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 4:20 am
by DrStraw
oca wrote:DrStraw wrote:The circle has more axes of symmetry than any other shape. I think the board should be round.
Why not taking a "standard goban" and change the rules of the game so that we have a "border wrap"
I tried toroidal go quite a lot in my early days of playing. Ladders are interesting.
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:20 am
by daal
Good idea. While you're at it, please place the square stones in the spaces and not on the intersections. It would make go a good deal easier imo.
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:28 am
by bayu
DrStraw wrote:
I tried toroidal go quite a lot in my early days of playing.
That's nice and all, but did you use donuts as stones?

Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:39 am
by Bonobo
cyclops wrote:The symmetry of Go is the symmetry of a square. Square stones reflect that.
The empty points are indeed squares

(I won’t tell whether upright or whether they are standing on one corner, though.)
And the stones are actually square
inside, they hide their intentions behind their outer rounding.
bayu wrote:DrStraw wrote:
I tried toroidal go quite a lot in my early days of playing.
That's nice and all, but did you use donuts as stones?

<heartburn> OH THE NOES! </heartburn> Bagels! Bagels!
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:20 am
by Bonobo
<Ingrid>
Shows just how hip Go ishi are.
</Ingrid>
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 3:42 pm
by cyclops
Who is Ingrid?
Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 5:40 pm
by Bonobo
cyclops wrote:Who is Ingrid?
Ingrid was a woman in the usenet who used to reply to her own posts

Re: on screen stones should be square!
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 6:05 pm
by cyclops
<cyclops@bonobo>
thx, your answer surprised me
</cyclops@bonobo>