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Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:20 am
by pasky
One of obvious worries connected with the sinking GoDiscussions is the backup policy / data availability in case things go wrong somehow (asteroid falls on the LifeIn19x19 server room or whatever). I like how Dojo thought about this (
http://shodanimports.com/dojo/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=15) - is there a plan for something similar here?
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:56 am
by Jordus
The hosting service auto-backups all the database info already.
However, it will be one of the responsibilities of the Admins we choose to periodically create a back-up file and save it to their home computer (each full backup file(everytime you back up) is usually only kb large).
Does this sound like a good plan?
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:03 am
by fwiffo
Is it possible for admins to have ssh access? That would make it easier to set up automated backups with rsync or whatever.
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:06 am
by Jordus
Ssh hasn't been enabled yet. Do you think its really necessary?
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:11 am
by xed_over
Jordus wrote:Ssh hasn't been enabled yet. Do you think its really necessary?
If I were an admin, ssh would be a must.
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:15 am
by Jordus
Ok then. I'll get in enabled.
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:16 am
by fwiffo
It's a really good idea, though obviously, you have to trust the admins. FTP shouldn't even really be used; it's insecure and sends passwords over the Internet in the clear.
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:19 am
by Marcus
fwiffo wrote:It's a really good idea, though obviously, you have to trust the admins. FTP shouldn't even really be used; it's insecure and sends passwords over the Internet in the clear.
Yes, I would like to make sure to emphasize this point. Please use SSH and SFTP for over-the-internet administrative work.
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:20 am
by xed_over
fwiffo wrote:It's a really good idea, though obviously, you have to trust the admins. FTP shouldn't even really be used; it's insecure and sends passwords over the Internet in the clear.
oooh, right. never use ftp.
sftp would be ok, for those who really want to use that protocol, but then they might as well be using ssh and scp
Re: Backup Policy
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:28 am
by fwiffo
sftp is, in fact, glorified scp (i.e. it's an FTP-like interface tunneled over ssh). But for transferring files, might as well use rsync over ssh. Actually, I'd probably use git or subverison over ssh if they're available on the server.