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Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:09 pm
by Shawn Ligocki
I got a different solution to Problem 4 in Chapter 9 of Davies' "Life or Death" and I'm curious if my solution is wrong or less optimal in some way or just a different solution.
The problem is:
$$Bc Black to make a Ko
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . O X X .
$$ | . . . . .
$$ +-----------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc Black to make a Ko
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . O X X .
$$ | . . . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
My solution is:
Davies lists the solution as:
Is it just that Davies solution closes off the outside in sente? So that even if Black loses the ko, White doesn't get any endgame pushes?
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:52 pm
by Bill Spight
Yes. Both solutions lead to ko with White taking first. In the standard solution the ko is less favorable for White.
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:18 am
by clemi
And what about this for white, is it better for her ?
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:20 am
by Bill Spight
$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . 6 O X .
$$ | 2 . O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | 4 3 5 . .
$$ +-----------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . 6 O X .
$$ | 2 . O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | 4 3 5 . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
takes ko.
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am
by Bill Spight
Oops! This is better. In fact, in a real game it would probably be the main line.
$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | 3 4 O X .
$$ | 2 5 O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | . . . . .
$$ +-----------
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | 3 4 O X .
$$ | 2 5 O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | . . . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
looks better than the book line because of the possible sente endgame on the left side.
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:25 am
by MagicMagor
Edit: Forget what i wrote - i was wrong. (Doing tsumego before coffee is not a good idea)
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:46 am
by DrStraw
MagicMagor wrote: Edit: Forget what i wrote - i was wrong. (Doing tsumego before coffee is not a good idea)
A bit tough to forget something which is not even available to see.
Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:30 am
by Aidoneus
DrStraw wrote: MagicMagor wrote: Edit: Forget what i wrote - i was wrong. (Doing tsumego before coffee is not a good idea)
A bit tough to forget something which is not even available to see.
Don't think about a pink elephant!