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Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:09 pm
by Shawn Ligocki
I got a different solution to Problem 4 in Chapter 9 of Davies' "Life or Death" and I'm curious if my solution is wrong or less optimal in some way or just a different solution.

The problem is:
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[go]$$Bc Black to make a Ko
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . O X X .
$$ | . . . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
My solution is:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | 5 4 O X .
$$ | . 3 O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | . 2 . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
Davies lists the solution as:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | 5 X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . 6 O X .
$$ | 3 4 O X .
$$ | . 7 O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | . 2 . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
Is it just that Davies solution closes off the outside in sente? So that even if Black loses the ko, White doesn't get any endgame pushes?

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:52 pm
by Bill Spight
Yes. Both solutions lead to ko with White taking first. In the standard solution the ko is less favorable for White.

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:18 am
by clemi
And what about this for white, is it better for her ?
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | 2 . O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | 4 3 . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:20 am
by Bill Spight
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | . 6 O X .
$$ | 2 . O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | 4 3 5 . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
:b7: takes ko.

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am
by Bill Spight
Oops! This is better. In fact, in a real game it would probably be the main line.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . . . .
$$ | . X X . .
$$ | O O X . .
$$ | . . O X .
$$ | 3 4 O X .
$$ | 2 5 O X .
$$ | 1 O X X .
$$ | . . . . .
$$ +-----------[/go]
:w2: looks better than the book line because of the possible sente endgame on the left side.

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:25 am
by MagicMagor
Edit: Forget what i wrote - i was wrong. (Doing tsumego before coffee is not a good idea)

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:46 am
by DrStraw
MagicMagor wrote:Edit: Forget what i wrote - i was wrong. (Doing tsumego before coffee is not a good idea)
A bit tough to forget something which is not even available to see.

Re: Davies - Life or Death - Problem 9.4

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:30 am
by Aidoneus
DrStraw wrote:
MagicMagor wrote:Edit: Forget what i wrote - i was wrong. (Doing tsumego before coffee is not a good idea)
A bit tough to forget something which is not even available to see.
Don't think about a pink elephant! :lol: