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Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:45 am
by quantumf
I'm not sure he'll appreciate the additional pressure, but at 19h00 GMT today (I believe this is 9pm CET and noon EST) L19's Uberdude will be playing RoseDuke (Victor Chow) in the Pandanet European Championships. You can watch the game live on IGS in the European Team Championship room.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:30 am
by EdLee
Thanks, Quantum.

Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:08 pm
by daal
The dude! B + 0.5!
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:51 pm
by ez4u
daal wrote:The dude! B + 0.5!
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Attaboy!

Re: South Africa's request to join the EGF
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:36 pm
by Uberdude
Yeah, I had misscounted there and thought I had lost by half a point if I defended as needed so was considering not defending and losing by atari and death in a blaze of glory instead but fortunately came to my senses. And regretting that needing to defend there meant my move there earlier was zero points in gote which is even worse than one point in gote which is worse than the one point in sente I let him get up top (which was my first idea but I changed my mind in a panic).
Here's the game and my comments:
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:15 pm
by tentano
Exciting when every single point you took matters.
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:44 pm
by Bill Spight
Banzai!

Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:28 am
by Joaz Banbeck
I want to see the sfg with comments.
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:32 am
by daal
Joaz Banbeck wrote:I want to see the sfg with comments.
Well, excuuuuuse me! The sgf download from pandanet stripped the comments out. IGS is pretty no-frills (except succumbing to prettiness with their Gopanda2 interface), and it seems people rarely chat there. There were not a large number of kibbitzers, and I suspect they were mostly from here.
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:19 am
by mumps
I was kibitzing at the end, having just completed my game, and there seemed to be a fair number of comments.
I couldn't keep up, so presumably there were a decent number of viewers, but I don't know how many.
Anyway, congratulations to Andrew for hanging on...
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:37 am
by quantumf
The file with kibitzing is available here:
http://www.britgo.org/events/euroteams2014
Victor has also shared some comments on the game. I'll try and upload them later. Needless to say he was rather critical of some his own moves, but also praised quite a lot of Andrew's moves. He showed a few ways Andrew could have won more comfortably than by 0.5, but also pointed out the final critical error - the throw in at Q4 on the bottom right to catch the two stones looked like a tesuji, but in fact there was an even sharper move, worth a few extra points (enough to win the game). Can anyone find it?
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:08 am
by mipli
Uberdude has posted the SGF as well with a few of his own comments
in another thread. Very interesting to read his view on the game.
Re: South Africa's request to join the EGF
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:55 am
by Bill Spight
Uberdude wrote:Yeah, I had misscounted there and thought I had lost by half a point if I defended as needed so was considering not defending and losing by atari and death in a blaze of glory instead but fortunately came to my senses. And regretting that needing to defend there meant my move there earlier was zero points in gote which is even worse than one point in gote which is worse than the one point in sente I let him get up top (which was my first idea but I changed my mind in a panic).
Here's the game and my comments:
Yes, the n8 oversight was unfortunate. But n15 is not the right play in that area. o16 is. And it is worth only 1 3/4 points (deiri). The right play at that point is to play in the bottom left and in the top right corner with sente and then play o16, which is the last play. Then you win by 2.5.
Earlier both players missed the double sente at t15.
Re: South Africa's request to join the EGF
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:02 am
by Bill Spight
I backed up the yose to move 251. Here is the sgf file with several variations, starting there. Some of the analysis was tricky, so I cannot guarantee perfection.
Re: Uberdude vs. RoseDuke
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:11 am
by Uberdude
Oh hi, I don't normally check this sub-forum, so no pressure from it

Though I did check the observers occasionally and it was up to 80 or so by the end which is more than most PGETC games (or at least league C ones). I was tempted to play the o5 (in daal's sgf on this thread, what's up with IGS sgfs flipping upside down?) farmer's hat shape to amuse the observers, though as Bill points out on the other thread o4 is the best move there.