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What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:09 am
by oca
Does anyone knows the name of the shape of a go stone ?
Thanks

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:27 am
by oca
Oh thanks,... "biconvex" that may be a good starting point for me... I'm trying to draw a stone using the javascript library
"THREE.js", but don't really know where to start... There are examples with cube and sphere, but none with go stones ;)

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:57 am
by Uberdude
Traditional biconvex stones are fairly close to an ellipsoid, though they may have a more pronounced 'lip' on the equator.

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:28 am
by tj86430
Uberdude wrote:Traditional biconvex stones are fairly close to an ellipsoid
And a specific kind of ellipsoid: oblate spheroid

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:51 am
by oca
Whoaw... what a lovely name...
unfortunatly, there are no ready to use OblateSpheroidGeometry in three.js so for now I will use just Sphere and scale it's z axis... which should be the ellipsoid right ?

Maybe I should post that in Computer GO topic but here is what I get now :

http://www.gocdf.ch/gobook/3D/stone.html

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:03 pm
by gowan
Lenticular?

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:46 pm
by DrStraw
gowan wrote:Lenticular?
Can't lenticular also refer to a concave lens?

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:12 pm
by Boidhre
DrStraw wrote:
gowan wrote:Lenticular?
Can't lenticular also refer to a concave lens?
In maths or English? In maths, as far as I can remember lens in the sense of shape only is used for 2d convex-convex shapes and lenticular for a 3d rotation of that shape. In English the usage isn't as precise as that and you have lens referring to convex-concave shapes and others.

Go stones aren't lenticular for the reasons Uberdude said above about elipsoids which lenticular objects are a subset of iirc (many years since I studied this stuff so I could be wrong).

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:20 pm
by DrStraw
Boidhre wrote:
DrStraw wrote:
gowan wrote:Lenticular?
Can't lenticular also refer to a concave lens?
In maths or English? In maths, as far as I can remember lens in the sense of shape only is used for 2d convex-convex shapes and lenticular for a 3d rotation of that shape. In English the usage isn't as precise as that and you have lens referring to convex-concave shapes and others.

Go stones aren't lenticular for the reasons Uberdude said above about elipsoids which lenticular objects are a subset of iirc (many years since I studied this stuff so I could be wrong).
Well, I thought this was a thread about an English word.

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:29 pm
by Boidhre
DrStraw wrote:Well, I thought this was a thread about an English word.
The discussion has been about elipsoids and oblate spheroids, was going with the flow.

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:50 am
by gowan
DrStraw wrote:
gowan wrote:Lenticular?
Can't lenticular also refer to a concave lens?
Dictionary definition: having the shape of a double-convex lens.

The second meaning is having the shape of a lens which, as you say, might be concave.

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:32 am
by John Fairbairn
Well, I thought this was a thread about an English word.
I want to agree, having, possibly like you, been brought up in a world where four hanks make a spangle, but the real words traditionally used to describe stone shapes are Japanese: kamaboko, (soroban) abacus bead and Honinbo.

The fact that the abacus bead stone shape resembles no abacus bead I have ever seen just adds to its charm.

Re: What is the name of the shape of a go stone ?

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:27 am
by Bill Spight
John Fairbairn wrote:
Well, I thought this was a thread about an English word.
I want to agree, having, possibly like you, been brought up in a world where four hanks make a spangle, but the real words traditionally used to describe stone shapes are Japanese: kamaboko, (soroban) abacus bead and Honinbo.

The fact that the abacus bead stone shape resembles no abacus bead I have ever seen just adds to its charm.
I does kind of look like the plastic beads of a cheap soroban I used to have. :) But not like those of the classier, wooden sorobans I have seen.