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MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2010
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:57 am
by Vesa
The 54th European Go Congress 2010 in Tampere, Finland features the Man vs. Machine event on Wednesday 28th July, 15:00 FST (GMT+3). MogoTW will meet Catalin Taranu on 9x9 and 19x19 matches, broadcast on KGS Go Server.
More about the topic:
http://www.egc2010.fi/news.phpCheers,
Vesa
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:09 am
by mic
Vesa wrote:broadcast on KGS Go Server.
In which room?
- Michael
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:30 am
by Vesa
English Game Room, see accounts EGC2010 and EGC2010Bot.
The 9x9 game was a convincing win for the humanity, 19x19 game with 7 handicap stones will follow shortly.
Vesa
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:38 am
by lorill
Here's the 9x9 game :
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/7/28/EGC2010-EGC2010Bot-3.sgf
and indeed, black had no chances.
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:55 am
by lorill
And the bot just won with H7 :
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/7/28/EGC2010-EGC2010Bot-4.sgf
Well done, mogo
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:01 am
by fwiffo
Awww, the bot plays handicap-weasel style.
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:16 am
by lorill
fwiffo wrote:Awww, the bot plays handicap-weasel style.
M17 was pretty nice.
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:30 am
by fwiffo
Yeah, but if I was giving somebody 7 stones, and they played 3-3 points in the opening like that, I wouldn't offer them a game again any time soon.
Re: MogoTW CrayXT4/XT5 vs. Catalin Taranu 5 dan pro at EGC 2
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:11 pm
by Harleqin
fwiffo wrote:Yeah, but if I was giving somebody 7 stones, and they played 3-3 points in the opening like that, I wouldn't offer them a game again any time soon.
I would.
A human player has weaknesses all over his game. If he gives you 7 stones, the reasons for the strength difference are in all stages. If he starts out with "weaseling", he is shedding points for security, but he will not be able to keep a small advantage through the late mid- and the endgame.
A bot using UTC (refined, etc.), on the other hand, has its weakest game at the start, and progressively gets stronger the closer the game comes to the end. It actually makes sense for it to give up points, as long as it survives to the stage where its strengths are.