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65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:10 am
by Magicwand
japanese rule; even game w/ 6.5 komi;
i have a feeling that this will be a fun game.
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:34 am
by cdybeijing
Is there komi?
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:37 am
by Magicwand
cdybeijing wrote: Is there komi?
i have edited above thread w/ komi.
komi is 6.5
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:13 am
by Peter Hansmeier
I look forward to following this game!
For Magicwand:
For Kie:
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:35 am
by Kie
Let's rock.
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:42 am
by Magicwand
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0[quote="Peter Hansmeier"]I look forward to following this game!
For Magicwand:
i only do that to the people i dont like
i have seen his game..he is stronger than 1 d for sure. but i still think i am stronger.
since it is an even game i will not overplay (unless i have to. hopefully not)
and since it is a game without pride issue i will make more comments than other game.
My goal:
1. enjoy.
2. teach skds on how i think by explaining my thoughts 100%.
3. play quality game (it will be a slow game with alot of thought)
4. i will display more accurate counting more often.(i hope you know what i mean)
5. i will also answer all questions on my moves and also my opponent's move if you ask.
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:45 am
by Kie
I have only followed one of your games so far... how would you describe your style? How do you plan to handle Magicwand?
I used to be a very calm and territorial oriented player but the last months I have been studying a lot of modern korean and chinese players and my style has changed toward a more fighting-based one. However I haven't quite gotten into it yet so I'm a bit lost right now.
My main concern against Magicwand is not giving him too much thickness early on, but rather keep a balance to help for the fighting that will come later.
I'll probably play this game fairly seriously which means a lot of reading, but right now I'm completely out of it so I'll probably stick to standard openings early on so I can have some time to recover some sleep and such.
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:03 am
by Kie
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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I almost never play double 4.4 because I like the complexity of the 3.4, but being W, it's good to have balance between thickness and profit so one 4.4 and one 3.4 is quite natural.
My plan is simple: I will pincer aggressively and try to fight for the advantage right away.
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0The main reason I don't play the most normal move of
is that black can gain outstanding thickness right off the bat. Since I expect a lot of fighting I think this would be too easy for black.
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:09 am
by Magicwand
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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call me weak if you want...
i hate pincer. i will go my way until he force me to fight.
below is what i expect
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:18 am
by Kie
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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I'll stick with the plan, prevent black thickness and press for early advantage. The only really annoying thing black can do here is this:
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0Then it becomes a lot of confused fighting and running. I think white is slighly better though so I guess I'll just deal with it if he has such urges.
Let's consider the one-space pincer:
$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0There is nothing wrong with this but black is thick and it's hard to gain an advantage here for white. Instead it becomes thickness versus profit which is exactly how I did not want to start the game.
The other josekis on the one-space and two-space pincers are more reasonable so I don't concern myself too much with those right now.
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:38 am
by daniel_the_smith
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:51 pm
by Magicwand
$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=0
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Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:52 pm
by Chew Terr
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:57 pm
by Bill Spight
I like this game.
Re: 65. Magicwand (4d) - Kie (3d)
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:12 pm
by Dusk Eagle
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm1'a' was my first instinct. I then did a corner pattern lookup at eidogo.com and found 19 matches. 'a', 'b', and 'c' were the most common answers, and 'd' has been played a couple of times as well.
is that black can gain outstanding thickness right off the bat. Since I expect a lot of fighting I think this would be too easy for black.