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Pros average less than 2 josekis per game
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:40 pm
by hyperpape
Or do they?
I have this vague memory that someone took a series of pro games and analyzed how many corners played out joseki sequences. If I'm not misremembering, the conclusion was that it was a little bit less than 2 per game.
Does anyone else remember this and have a clue on how to find it?
Re: Pros average less than 2 josekis per game
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:43 pm
by DrStraw
I think you have to define joseki. There could be justification for saying that any corner sequence played by a pro is joseki.
Re: Pros average less than 2 josekis per game
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:48 pm
by Kirby
I agree with DrStraw. This is hard to concretely analyze, because:
1. There are thousands of josekis.
2. Some "joseki" are not "joseki", depending on the board position.
3. In a given situation, what the pro plays might very well be "joseki", for that position, even though it's not joseki on an even board.
4. Joseki often comes from pros, so it's almost joseki by definition, unless they've made a mistake.
Re: Pros average less than 2 josekis per game
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:50 pm
by hyperpape
DrStraw wrote:I think you have to define joseki.
I agree.
DrStraw wrote:There could be justification for saying that any corner sequence played by a pro is joseki.
What joseki are is a tough topic, but I think this is clearly not the right definition.
However, what I actually care about is: did someone try to answer this question, and how do I find that post?