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Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:23 pm
by pookpooi
From the official Hankuk Kiwon (KBA) website schedule page for October-November http://www.baduk.or.kr/info/schedule.asp
(translated by reddit user genra42)
10/03 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 1경기 1국 3rd October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 1st match 1st Round
10/04 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 1경기 2국 4th October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 1st match 2nd Round
10/17 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 1경기 3국 17th October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 1st match 3rd Round
10/18 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 2경기 1국 18th October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 2nd match 1st Round
10/24 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 2경기 2국 24th October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 2nd match 2nd Round
10/25 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 2경기 3국 25th October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 2nd match 3rd Round
10/31 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 3경기 1국 31th October - 19:00 KST - Google event match 3rd match 1st Round
11/01 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 3경기 2국 1st November - 19:00 KST - Google event match 3rd match 2nd Round
11/02 19:00 구글 이벤트대국 3경기 3국 2nd November - 19:00 KST - Google event match 3rd match 3rd Round

AlphaGo isn't mentioned in any announcement (yet) but from the form of the event it looks like exhibition/showdown matches more than usual professional tournament.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:38 pm
by Kirby
I tried finding information about this, but haven't had any luck yet. I did notice a post on the DC inside baduk forum (kind of like L19 for korean speakers), where the OP asked about this event. The post was deleted for some reason. I could read the cached question from the google search results, but there weren't any responses from that time.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:56 pm
by pookpooi
This could be premature announcement that DeepMind really, really, doesn't want it to happen (like when Yang Jun'an, president of the Chinese Chess Association, announced at the press conference for the World Amateur Go Championship in Wuxi, Jiangsu Province, on Saturday that Ke Jie will take part in the "ultimate Go match between human and AI" with AlphaGo within the year, according to the Xinhua News Agency.)

or it could be a plain casual human matches

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:58 pm
by Kirby
Not too long before we find out!

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:32 pm
by xiayun
Given the next two rounds of Samsung Cup will be held on 10/4 and 10/6, this is very unlikely to involve AlphaGo with a top professional player.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:24 am
by idontgetit
but only 16 players are still in it, 2 of which I'm not sure we can call "top". Even accounting for the (probable) fact that they scheduled this before the last few days, there are only 32 possible players.

I mean I would totally call Meng Tailing a "top pro", and would be awesome if he gets to play AlphaGo.

That said, I doubt that alphago has anything to do with this :(

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:13 am
by hyperpape
idontgetit wrote:I mean I would totally call Meng Tailing a "top pro", and would be awesome if he gets to play AlphaGo.
Until/unless they open AlphaGo to all comers, I suspect that the fact that the first match was against Lee Sedol limits who the next match will be against. My instinct is that the next opponent has to be a world champion, ideally Ke Jie or Park Junghwan. There's intellectual interest in seeing more games against any very strong player, but my guess is that it doesn't match their plan for generating publicity to pick players who can't make a claim to be Lee's (current) equal.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:27 am
by pookpooi
hyperpape wrote:
idontgetit wrote:I mean I would totally call Meng Tailing a "top pro", and would be awesome if he gets to play AlphaGo.
Until/unless they open AlphaGo to all comers, I suspect that the fact that the first match was against Lee Sedol limits who the next match will be against. My instinct is that the next opponent has to be a world champion, ideally Ke Jie or Park Junghwan. There's intellectual interest in seeing more games against any very strong player, but my guess is that it doesn't match their plan for generating publicity to pick players who can't make a claim to be Lee's (current) equal.
Ideally they'd be Ke Jie, Park Jungwhan and Iyama Yuta, so that all 3 big go countries audience can enjoy but it's just from my dream. I really hope more information will announce with the upcoming AlphaGo commentary games.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:52 am
by idontgetit
Do we know when the AlphaGo commentary is coming out?

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:21 am
by hyperpape
pookpooi wrote:Ideally they'd be Ke Jie, Park Jungwhan and Iyama Yuta, so that all 3 big go countries audience can enjoy but it's just from my dream. I really hope more information will announce with the upcoming AlphaGo commentary games.
That would be nice, and the national rivalries might be such that any of those players would generate great interest. But I think there's enough uncertainty about exactly how Iyama stacks up to the other top players that you can argue he shouldn't be next (and I'm one of the less skeptical people about goratings).

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:19 am
by pookpooi
Sadly Aja Huang doesn't know any detail about the match, so it looks like not only AlphaGo is not involve in this match, but DeepMind is also not participate.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:01 am
by Bonobo
pookpooi wrote:Sadly Aja Huang doesn't know any detail about the match, so it looks like not only AlphaGo is not involve in this match, but DeepMind is also not participate.
This post by Aja Huang from the “computer-go” mailing list is probably what you’re referring to:
[..] Is it AlphaGo playing, perhaps with 3 players? Or it is just some event (tournament) which is sponsored by Google?
No, it's not AlphaGo. I don't know any detail of this event.
Yeah, sad it is … but then again, it makes me wonder what that event may be about …

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:20 am
by Uberdude
Live now on wbaduk there is a broadcast of some event with a title in Korean I can't read and player names "ofAlphaGo" and "ofGod". Maybe some homage to AlphaGo by humans?
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Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:40 am
by macelee
Maybe not very significant. I've just seen another game between 'GodSSKILL' and 'ALPHAGOTM'.

Re: Google event matches in South Korea this October

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:54 am
by Kirby
@Uberdude: The title says, "AlphaGo - Lee Sedol Relay Pair Game 3" (roughly).