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US Open #3
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:09 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
This is round 3 at Colorado Springs. I was black. I came out of the fuseki quite well, I think, but then misread and lost. The amusing part is 35-45. Even then, I still could have made it a game with a better move at 69.
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]SZ[19];B[po];W[dd];B[ep];W[qd];B[cf];W[fd];B[dj];W[qm];B[pj];W[om];B[no];W[ro];B[qp]C[At this point I think it is a won game for me.];W[ph];B[pl];W[pm];B[mk];W[mm];B[lo];W[km];B[jn];W[jl];B[nh];W[oi];B[nj];W[ni];B[mi];W[mh];B[li];W[mg]C[I thought that O13 was better for him.];B[qh];W[qg];B[pi];W[oh];B[rg]C[I played this, reading that I could connect everything.];W[qi];B[rh];W[qj];B[qk];W[oj];B[pk];W[rk](;B[ok]C[I had been planning S10 here ( see variation ) then realized that it didn't work];W[rj]C[Now I'm split...];B[qf]C[Gotta live...];W[ne]C[Should be P15];B[pd];W[pc];B[og];W[ng];B[pg];W[nh];B[od];W[pe]C[I should have played P15 too.];B[qe];W[oe];B[qc]C[I get life];W[rd];B[oc];W[pb];B[rc];W[nc];B[ob];W[nb];B[qb];W[nd]C[...but he gets the wall];B[pa];W[ji]C[At this point I quit recording, as I needed every spare second to figure out how to save my group. In retrospect, it was a bad decision. I should have just let it sit there, and keeping an eye on it is a burden for him. I probably should have played G16.
Instead, I tried to save it. It got all the way to E14, and died, whereupon I resigned.])(;B[rj];W[ok](;B[ol];W[nl]C[This is not too good for black])(;B[nl]C[I had read this far back when I haned at S14, and concluded that it worked...];W[ol]C[But it is atari on the eastern black group];B[nm])))
Re: US Open #3
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:24 pm
by DrStraw
I don't think you had a good fuseki at all. The five stones in the lower right are doing very little. They have solid white group above them and too much room below them. There is no way you can protect all that bottom territory and make that center group live. Just living in the center without giving away huge influence will be tough enough. I think this is clearly a lost game for black.
Re: US Open #3
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:53 am
by ethanb
I agree with Dr. Straw - odd fuseki is odd.
After move 21 you can each count about 15 points, probably. At the point where you say you think it's a won game, I count ten for white and somewhere between zero and five for black (komi not included.)
White has an attack developing on your stone, and you have lots of influence on the bottom with no way to use it easily; an invasion at the bottom should still live (although black will probably get another 10-15 points from enclosing it) even at the final diagram. One more move on the bottom will make 30 points or so of territory, but white gets to make at least as much on the top.
Re: US Open #3
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:37 am
by EdLee
ethanb wrote:At the point where you say you think it's a won game,
I count ten for white and somewhere between zero and five for black (komi not included.)
At move 13, I count zero for both W and B on the board.
However, at the start of a 9-stone game, it is also zero for both W and B --
so the score in itself is insufficient info.
Re: US Open #3
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:15 am
by ethanb
EdLee wrote:ethanb wrote:At the point where you say you think it's a won game,
I count ten for white and somewhere between zero and five for black (komi not included.)
At move 13, I count zero for both W and B on the board.
However, at the start of a 9-stone game, it is also zero for both W and B --
so the score in itself is insufficient info.
Nonsense - the handicap stones are obviously white's prisoners.