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Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:56 am
by Gomoto
... and the winner is Leela Zero at 20 sec per move.
(Intel I5 2500k & Nvidia 1080Ti)
(Zen did not see the defeat until late in the game.)
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:56 am
by Gomoto
Game 2:
Zen 7 (20 sec. p. move) versus Leela Zero (10 sec. p. move)
I like this game very much. An intense battle of the two dargon masters. Leela Zero outplays Zen very nicely and displays quite a Ko fighting strength in this one.
How low can I go with the time settings for Leela Zero on my local box?
How blessed am I, to have these two master teachers available.
(Probably a mistake that Zen 7 was released without GPU support.)
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:39 am
by Gomoto
5 seconds is to tight for Leela Zero on my box, finally a win for Zen:
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:47 pm
by Pippen
Is it possible you let Zen continue with Black here and LeelaZero with White with at least 30s per move. I wonder how Leela does in a slightly suboptimal fuseki.
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Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:41 pm
by Gomoto
Why Zen versus Leela? I have to put in the moves by hand
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:52 pm
by Pippen
I just would like to know if Leela can win as White against Zen as black in this setup. I thought maybe you could just let them play from move 5 onwards...otherwise it's a little bit complicated.
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:00 pm
by Gomoto
Sorry I am not interested at plays in the middle of the side in the opening stage. Too passive, only corners and approach moves make the cut for me.
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:48 am
by Pippen
Gomoto wrote:Too passive
It may look like that, but it's actually very aggressive, because the splitting stone supports all kinds of daring maneuvers in the vincinity.
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:00 am
by Uberdude
Gomoto wrote:Sorry I am not interested at plays in the middle of the side in the opening stage. Too passive, only corners and approach moves make the cut for me.
And before I saw them both in the same thread I thought Gomoto might have been the reincarnation of Pippen!
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:18 am
by Gomoto
Antichinese opening (Not necessary, because chinese opening is bad
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Variation 1 (Antichinese by Leela Zero 10 sec.)
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:33 am
by kdbaby1412
How do you set the time for LeelaZ ?
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:45 am
by Pippen
Wow, did LeelaZ play White and win? I am impressed how easypeasy Leela did with such an argueable suboptimal opening.
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:49 am
by Gomoto
Antichinese debunked by Leela Zero (10 sec.) Black versus Zen 7 (20 sec.) White.
Leela Zero shows quite some shinogi abilities to support the early 3-3 invasion.
Antichinese Variation 2:
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:10 am
by Uberdude
lol at 69 "your vital point is my vital point".
Re: Leela Zero versus Zen 7 ...
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:17 am
by Gomoto
I think 69 is quite hard to find, aka it is quite easy to miss
http://ps.waltheri.net/940193
But if your confident to kill ...