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This joseki by Elf and Leelaz only appears in 3 games in my pro database:

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$$ . . . 5 . 1 O . . |
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Played by Elf, Leelaz, and Cho

additional Info:
Cho Chikun 9p - Rin Kaiho 9p, W+0.5 (Komi 5.5)
8th Japanese Kisei, title match #6, 1984-03-07
Commentary in Go World 36

What do you think?

First thing that comes in my head is that it's relatively slow for white, but still I like white better in this position than black. (of course, the rest of the board is too important to judge it quarantined)
I feel R5 is an important point later on for both players.

On the other hand, white has invested one extra stone here, so his advantage might not be worth a stone.

Anyway, for a Kyu player, I'd say white has the better position, because we have a hard time using these black stones to the max advantage. While playing as white is "simpler" for a kyu player



But I'm just a DDK so don't take my opinion too seriously

Didn't imamura toshiya play something like this in the recent nhk match against yamashiro hiroshi?

Didn't imamura toshiya play something like this in the recent nhk match against yamashiro hiroshi?

Good call.
Variation:

This joseki by Elf and Leelaz only appears in 3 games in my pro database:

Go Seigen was the first to play it, in 1948.

Once again Go and Alpha no Go is remarkably reminiscent of Sai and Hikaru no Go.

Go Seigen was the first to play it, in 1948.

Once again, [ Go and ( Alpha no Go ) ] is remarkably reminiscent of
[ Sai and ( Hikaru no Go ) ].

Look forward to Babel-fish bots resolving these and parsing 100% correctly.

It plays go
It translates

Murashima Yoshinori

Yes, Bill, but I make it a rule to consider josekis in an empty quadrant. I know that pros don't ignore the rest of the board even if a quadrant is empty, but even they seem to stick to empty 10/11 x10/11 quadrants in joseki books.