Life In 19x19

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:17 pm**

In this joseki a and b are the common moves. What about c?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ --------------------+ $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . O . . . . | $$ , . X a . O X X . . | $$ . . . . . X O b . . | $$ . . . . . . c . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

continuation:

Hane Yasumasa 9p - Sakai Isao 6p, W+3.5 (Komi 5.5)
28th Japanese Okan, round 2, 1987-02-12

Hane Yasumasa 9p - Sakai Isao 6p, W+3.5 (Komi 5.5)
28th Japanese Okan, round 2, 1987-02-12

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ --------------------+ $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . 3 . . | $$ . . . . . O . . . . | $$ , . X . . O X X . . | $$ . . . . 2 X O . . . | $$ . . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W $$ --------------------+ $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . 3 6 . | $$ . . . . . O . . . . | $$ , . X . . O X X . . | $$ . . . . 2 X O . . . | $$ . . . . . . 1 . 4 . | $$ . . . . . . . 5 . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

the move I am interested in arises in this position (variation):
(e and d are the common moves, but what about the marked one)?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------+ $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . e . . . O O X . | $$ . . . d . O . . X . | $$ , . X W . O X X . . | $$ . . . . X X O . . . | $$ . . . . . . O . X . | $$ . . . . . . . O X . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . O . . | $$ , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

This is LZ`s opinion:

: check1.JPG (173.13 KiB) Viewed 7328 times

What is your take on the marked move?
Is the move at c (in the first diagram) therefore an interesting choice in this joseki?

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:35 pm**

Cannot comment technically. However this move appears once recently in a professional game.

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:13 pm**

Ah, thanks! I should integrate your recent go4go mails in my database!

So it is at least a playable move

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:53 pm**

Gomoto wrote:...

So it is at least a playable move

So what is Lizzie showing after say B45 in the game above?

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:17 am**

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Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:18 am**

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Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:23 am**

alternative position:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . O X X . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:23 am**

I am looking forward to try this (move c) at home

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:28 am**

Gomoto wrote:I am looking forward to try this (move c) at home

It looked to me on first glance like on of those complicated fighting variations that say, 'Pro level only. Do not try at home'

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Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:56 am**

While I avoided fighting in the past like the plague,
I dont miss a brawl in these days.

That is what they call overconfidence probably

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