Life In 19x19

Guys,

checking players of the XXth century, that thing I mentioned about people born around the 30s, I found a game between Kikuchi Yasuro (a very good amateur) and... Go Seigen? Could anyone confirm?

The website is here and the game is...



Take care.

Yes, this game is in the GoGoD database. 1971-01-00aa.sgf

Bill Spight wrote:Yes, this game is in the GoGoD database. 1971-01-00aa.sgf

Oh, thanks. I have a 2012 version. I'd have thought old games had already filtered into online databases.

Thank you

菊池康郎 used to be the strongest amateur in Japan. He used to win Amateur Maijin or Honinbo every year. And winner of this tournament were allowed to play a game with one of top professional.

trout wrote:菊池康郎 used to be the strongest amateur in Japan. He used to win Amateur Maijin or Honinbo every year. And winner of this tournament were allowed to play a game with one of top professional.

I was aware of the general idea behind the Ama Meijin & Honinbo, I wasn't aware of this player's... ubiquity?

Still, what I found quirky was Go Seigen's name in there. I was looking for second line players and... Well, seeing the brief of a kifu read Go Seigen vs so-so Ama... kinda raises a flag. Or two.

Do you happen to know if Go Seigen joined in those games with Ama? Not being part of the Kiin makes me wonder.

Take care.

The term "professional" does not imply greater strength than any amateur. In CJK go countries there are many cases of amateurs defeating pros in serious games. Kikuchi is well known as being at least professional mid-dan level strength. In fact he has trained professionals, e.g. Yamashita Keigo, who has won numerous titles in Japan.

gowan wrote:The term "professional" does not imply greater strength than any amateur. In CJK go countries there are many cases of amateurs defeating pros in serious games. Kikuchi is well known as being at least professional mid-dan level strength. In fact he has trained professionals, e.g. Yamashita Keigo, who has won numerous titles in Japan.

Granted and known. And yet, "Go Seigen vs Ama" kinda has a ring to it.

Take care.

See this post from JF regarding Kikuchi.