Life In 19x19

A query for those versed in Japanese Go:

Does it use the Jo-Ha-Kyu triad of concepts? Opening-Middlegame-Endgame kinda suggests it, but it can go much further than that.

Thank you

Is this a Chinese concept? Korean? Martian?

I can tell you this: in the West, When one is beginning to learn go/baduk/weiqi, there is only the opening; it never really ends, it only spreads across the entire board.

bogiesan wrote:Is this a Chinese concept? Korean? Martian?

Japanese. Originally from theatre, it expanded into martial arts. It's sort of "setup - confrontation - resolution" with some quirks.

Take care.

I've never seen it mentioned in go, but then you almost never see references to Sun Zi's Art of War, or other exotic stuff that westerners think suffuses everything oriental. I suppose next there'll be people itching for matcha go stones on a tatami board.

Personally I think jo-ha-kyu is much overrated (though Zeami himself isn't). It's a pretty standard literary device in European literature, for example. Even journalists learn to write features that way. As to other areas, it's not that different from the old lecturing adage: tell 'em what you're going to tell 'em, tell 'em, tell 'em what you've told 'em. Or a three-course meal.

But if you insisted on applying it to go styles, you could say the Korean style is ha-ha-kyu, and the typical amateur style is ha-ha-ha.

Jo is of course sealing off territory in the opening, Japanese style:

> When o'er the hill the eastern star
> Tells bughtin-time is near, my jo.

John Fairbairn wrote:But if you insisted on applying it to go styles, you could say the Korean style is ha-ha-kyu, and the typical amateur style is ha-ha-ha.

That certainly describes my style.