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2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:16 am
by silviu22
The 2021 Samsung cup has started and the Koreans are doing very well. I think 5 of them made it to the 3rd round. See the gotoeveryone page. I think Shin Jinseo won his game vs Fan Tingyu. There could be as many as 7 Koreans in the 3rd round...

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:10 am
by macelee
There was wide disruption of Internet services in Korea so that two quarter-final games had to be abandoned. :o

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:00 am
by pajaro
Are they escapers?? :shock:

I hadn't thought about this. In a "real world" competition, when something happens (heavy rain, cuts of electricity, atomic bombs...), matches are postponed. But when a game is played on-line, one party might have a problem while the other one is perfectly able to play. Has this happened before? I don't know if it was an organizers' decisions, or this is in the rules.

Go, chess, poker... and of course, e-sports, there is a lot going on nowadays. Connection failures are going to happen again.

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:57 am
by jlt
One of the quarterfinals involved two Koreans: Shin Jinseo-Han Seungjoo. Was that match interrupted? What was the decision then?

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:40 am
by CDavis7M
pajaro wrote:But when a game is played on-line, one party might have a problem while the other one is perfectly able to play. Has this happened before? I don't know if it was an organizers' decisions, or this is in the rules.
Wasn't there an incident where Shin Jinseo clicked his mouse in byoyomi and the when the move didn't register? Was that someone else? I remember seeing the video and he was clicking furiously for a second or two and then lost on time. In that case, I think the tournament had rules to put the responsibility of hardware issues on each player. So, the game was officially lost by the rules, even though the player probably would have won the game. In this case, I think there was a petition (or something) based on the video footage and the tournament Director decided to have a new match.

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:43 am
by CDavis7M
macelee wrote:There was wide disruption of Internet services in Korea so that two quarter-final games had to be abandoned. :o
Did you hear any resolution on this?

By the way, has anyone heard of young Chinese professionals abandoning their games after they run out of their 1-hour daily (3 hours weekly) video game allowance? :scratch:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-08-30/

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:40 pm
by trout
Internal router in Korean Baduk site had problem. The game is postponed to 10/26/21(Korean date).

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:10 am
by Mike Novack
CDavis7M wrote: By the way, has anyone heard of young Chinese professionals abandoning their games after they run out of their 1-hour daily (3 hours weekly) video game allowance? :scratch:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-08-30/
I seriously doubt that for professionals (however young) their time playing weiqi on-line is considered "playing video games". Also probably extends downward at least as far as the upper level students in training programs to become pro.Just like on-line time for school work.

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:38 am
by jlt
Do Chinese servers like Fox Go or Yikiweiqi have age verification procedures for people who log in from China?

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:24 pm
by pajaro
jlt wrote:Do Chinese servers like Fox Go or Yikiweiqi have age verification procedures for people who log in from China?
This is becoming more and more bizarre...

So Weiqi has the same status as any shooter game?

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:16 pm
by jlt
Maybe not, I'm just asking...

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:45 am
by macelee
CDavis7M wrote:
macelee wrote:There was wide disruption of Internet services in Korea so that two quarter-final games had to be abandoned. :o
Did you hear any resolution on this?

By the way, has anyone heard of young Chinese professionals abandoning their games after they run out of their 1-hour daily (3 hours weekly) video game allowance? :scratch:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 021-08-30/
This is absolutely not the case. If anything, playing Go is being encouraged. I am participating discussions in several Chinese Go forums and this idea has never been brought up.

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:23 am
by silviu22
Looks like the final will be a Korean affair: Park Junghwan vs Shin Jinseo.

It looks like Shin had a difficult game and almost lost to Yang Dingxin. See here for some commentary in Chinese on his semifinal game.

Park Junghwan reached the Samsung cup final for the first time, 2 years after his last final of an international tournament. He is on a 10-game winning streak according to go4go, his last loss being to Shin Jinseo on Sept 22. So Park's in good form and will be eager for revenge.

The final starts Monday, Nov 1st.

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:41 am
by trout
Park jungwhan defeated Shin jinseo by 2:1 became Samsung cup champion!!!!

Re: 2021 Samsung Cup

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:16 am
by silviu22
Yes, Park Junghwan avenged all those games he lost to Shin Jinseo recently. Also, he won after losing the first game, so his back was really against the wall.