Life In 19x19

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:29 am**

This is a game played on IGS at 3.5D level. The game is not very complex, and the quality is good. Hence, I think it is suitable for Low-SDK or DDK to learn. I (black) lost by 2.5 points and reviewed very carefully with AI. Any critiques and feedbacks are welcomed also.

Link: http://go.ba.net/playgo/go.html?sgf=ZLOe46IP.sgf

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:10 am**

Just a comment on this position: when I review my games with Katago, Black usually tenukis.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Position at move 32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . X . O O O . . . , . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Suppose for instance Black plays elsewhere and White clamps...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Position at move 32 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . 8 b . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 6 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . c . . . X O . . | $$ | . X . O O O . . . , . . . . 3 X O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O . . 2 X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 a X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

None of the players wants to play "a", as it would be a slonection. White still needs to protect at "b", and then Black can defend at "c".

Posted: **Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:32 am**

Thanks for jlt to correct my wrong intution!

Posted: **Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:25 am**

Posted: **Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:39 am**

andy12514 wrote:Thanks for jlt to correct my wrong intution!

To be fair, I think the other position is more suitable for DDK and SDK. Maybe the jump is too slow, but it's much more manageable. Unless it's a high rank SDK, there are plenty of places to collapse. Seems to me that most games are won as a result of a collapse.

Posted: **Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:51 am**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ . . . O . . | $$ . . X 1 2 . | $$ . . X O 3 . | $$ . . , O . . | $$ . X . . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ . . . O . . | $$ . . X O 3 . | $$ . . X 1 2 . | $$ . . X O . . | $$ . . , O . . | $$ . X . . . . |[/go]

Posted: **Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:03 am**

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$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O 3 . |
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 2 . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O 3 . | $$ | . X . O O O . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The normal continuation for White is this

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 2 . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X W 3 . | $$ | . X . O O O . . . , . . . . . , W . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Then Black can't capture the marked stones, so the push and cut is considered as bad for Black.

Posted: **Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:25 pm**

jlt wrote:Then Black can't capture the marked stones, so the push and cut is considered as bad for Black.

Yes. you are right. I was looking wrong.
Thanks.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Good for White $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O X O | $$ | . X . O O O . . . , . . . . . X O X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O . . . X X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Life In 19x19

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