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Life and Death Problem

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 2:55 am
by thequietcenter
the following problem is problem #42 in the Just Go life and death training.

I think Black should be trying to prevent the eye that A2 and B1 can form. But I cant figure this one out.


Re: Life and Death Problem

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:32 am
by dfan
I will try to give the smallest possible hint about how to approach this.

With situations like these you generally have two ways to kill:
  • Capture White before they capture you
  • Make a bulky shape that when captured is only one eye
In a good problem, both techniques may be necessary depending on what White does.

Re: Life and Death Problem

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 3:40 am
by Cassandra
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$$ | O O O O O X . . . |
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$$ | M Z O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
:bx: / :ex: is a dead eye-shape.
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[go]$$B
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | X X X X X X , . . |
$$ | W W W W W X . . . |
$$ | ? X X W X X , . . |
$$ | . X W W W X . . . |
$$ | . ? W ? X . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
White's group :wc: has only three liberties (shadowed).

After your move :b1:
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[go]$$B
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . , . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X X X , . . |
$$ | O O O O O X . . . |
$$ | Z Z Z O X X , . . |
$$ | M Z O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
:bx: / :ex: is a dead eye-shape.
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[go]$$B
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . , . , . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X X X X X X , . . |
$$ | W W W W W X . . . |
$$ | X X X W X X , . . |
$$ | . X W W W X . . . |
$$ | . ? W ? X . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
White's group :wc: has only TWO liberties (shadowed).

Re: Life and Death Problem

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 4:19 am
by dhu163
Tips:

in a dead shape (or a seki if you haven't filled outside liberties yet, such as D1, F1), you need to be connected.

in particular, everything needs to be connected to one central stone. Normally 2-1 at A2 is vital for eyespace. But in this case, playing 2-1 doesn't help because A2 and the C3 on the board are too far apart to be connected. But that doesn't mean you can't kill, especially as F1 is an approach liberty that you don't need if W puts themselves in self-atari.

A2 is open enough that it could be an eye. That is, you have enough liberties and W lacks enough liberties to compete for it.

Re: Life and Death Problem

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:51 am
by jlt
When the problem is so small you can try every variation, it's a good reading exercise anyway.