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Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:16 pm
by Chew Terr
Have ya'all had any odd or unusual games, recently? Last night I played an odd one online. First, we took the star points. Next, my opponent took tengen. I was surprised, but not as surprised when his next two moves were two 3-3 invasions under my star points. I built two walls facing each other, and he took the center star between them. It became a huge fighting game, with him trying to use the tengen stone, and me trying to use my huge influence. I had just started rereading Attack and Defense, so I particularly wanted to use my strength to win fights, instead of building territories directly.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/4/23/Chew-thebustos.sgf
Anyways, I do not want a review, because I did not really treat the game very seriously once I saw my opponent's fuseki. But it was an odd and interesting game, so I figured I may as well share it as an oddity.
Does anyone else have any unusual or interesting games to share?
Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:49 pm
by Phelan
Here's one I played recently, that also featured a double 3-3 invasion by my opponent. It was a serious game, though. I don't think my opponent was very happy with the result, since he didn't stick around to review.
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600]OT[25/900 Canadian]
PW[Phelan]PB[Opponent]WR[11k]BR[7k]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[597.812]
;W[dp]WL[590.942]
;B[dd]BL[591.806]
;W[pp]WL[583.594]
;B[jd]BL[554.748]
;W[qj]WL[573.782]
;B[jp]BL[546.343]
;W[cj]WL[557.499]
;B[qq]BL[534.712]
;W[qp]WL[530.622]
;B[pq]BL[531.743]
;W[oq]WL[512.647]
;B[or]BL[530.375]
;W[nq]WL[511.367]
;B[nr]BL[529.357]
;W[mq]WL[510.173]
;B[rp]BL[528.014]
;W[ro]WL[508.471]
;B[rq]BL[525.619]
;W[qn]WL[504.178]
;B[lr]BL[516.545]
;W[kq]WL[453.861]
;B[lq]BL[502.213]
;W[kp]WL[348.585]
;B[lp]BL[495.484]
;W[ko]WL[326.601]
;B[cq]BL[484.341]
;W[dq]WL[305.763]
;B[cp]BL[480.323]
;W[do]WL[251.092]
;B[co]BL[477.442]
;W[cn]WL[242.611]
;B[bn]BL[475.691]
;W[cm]WL[240.955]
;B[bm]BL[474.488]
;W[ji]WL[177.811]
;B[jk]BL[465.114]
;W[hj]WL[162.362]
;B[lj]BL[462.555]
;W[lh]WL[148.202]
;B[ch]BL[450.269]
;W[qf]WL[81.554]
;B[qe]BL[447.067]
;W[pf]WL[78.918]
;B[nd]BL[446.239]
;W[ei]WL[16.124]
;B[eg]BL[444.059]
;W[gg]WL[896.516]OW[24]
;B[fh]BL[441.113]
;W[fi]WL[893.344]OW[23]
;B[gh]BL[439.308]
;W[hi]WL[886.87]OW[22]
;B[hh]BL[437.741]
;W[fc]WL[880.298]OW[21]
;B[ec]BL[435.199]
;W[fe]WL[829.458]OW[20]
;B[hd]BL[405.105]
;W[jg]WL[814.548]OW[19]
;B[ig]BL[390.126]
;W[lo]WL[809.626]OW[18]
;B[mp]BL[385.07]
;W[no]WL[803.956]OW[16]
;B[mo]BL[374.58]
;W[mn]WL[794.849]OW[15]
;B[nn]BL[367.544]
;W[mm]WL[763.743]OW[14]
;B[op]BL[358.544]
;W[on]WL[731.368]OW[13]
;B[oo]BL[336.871]
;W[po]WL[704.013]OW[12]
;B[np]BL[334.516]
;W[nm]WL[702.494]OW[11]
;B[in]BL[327.29]
;W[km]WL[651.536]OW[10]
;B[jo]BL[321.847]
;W[il]WL[646.889]OW[9]
;B[jl]BL[319.798]
;W[jm]WL[644.603]OW[8]
;B[im]BL[318.37]
;W[hl]WL[641.938]OW[7]
;B[ni]BL[311.131]
;W[ng]WL[587.419]OW[6]
;B[og]BL[304.97]
;W[oh]WL[574.82]OW[5]
;B[of]BL[300.37]
;W[nh]WL[561.32]OW[4]
;B[pg]BL[296.54]
;W[ph]WL[502.968]OW[3]
;B[qg]BL[292.846]
;W[rf]WL[501.102]OW[2]
;B[rg]BL[291.232]
;W[qc]WL[499.008]OW[1]
;B[pc]BL[286.572]
;W[pb]WL[900]OW[25]
;B[ob]BL[285.117]
;W[re]WL[872.848]OW[24]
;B[qd]BL[259.115]
;W[rd]WL[869.351]OW[23]
;B[rc]BL[255.381]
;W[qb]WL[850.258]OW[22]
;B[rb]BL[252.97]
;W[hp]WL[759.394]OW[21]
;B[jr]BL[245.468]
;W[jq]WL[637.022]OW[20]
;B[iq]BL[241.787]
;W[kr]WL[627.241]OW[19]
;B[ip]BL[238.51]
;W[ir]WL[618.182]OW[18]
;B[hq]BL[235.041]
;W[gp]WL[607.149]OW[17]
;B[gn]BL[231.778]
;W[hm]WL[591.809]OW[16]
;B[hn]BL[229.933]
;W[en]WL[571.352]OW[15]
;B[fo]BL[227.476]
;W[gq]WL[566.622]OW[14]
;B[hr]BL[221.189]
;W[js]WL[559.756]OW[13]
;B[dr]BL[201.982]
;W[er]WL[557.067]OW[12]
;B[eq]BL[199.663]
;W[fr]WL[538.831]OW[11]
;B[ep]BL[189.602]
;W[cr]WL[535.904]OW[10]
;B[br]BL[186.16]
;W[ds]WL[533.515]OW[9]
;B[fn]BL[171.244]
;W[em]WL[519.161]OW[8]
;B[hk]BL[151.248]
;W[gk]WL[462.066]OW[7]
;B[ik]BL[146.047]
;W[gl]WL[458.365]OW[6]
;B[gj]BL[135.22]
;W[gi]WL[451.223]OW[5]
;B[fl]BL[130.082]
;W[fk]WL[444.811]OW[4]
;B[el]BL[124.638]
;W[cl]WL[411.529]OW[3]
;B[fm]BL[106.21]
;W[dk]WL[376.246]OW[2]
;B[di]BL[97.675]
;W[eh]WL[347.83]OW[1]
;B[dh]BL[87.718]
;W[dj]WL[900]OW[25]
;B[ii]BL[74.892]
;W[ij]WL[890.102]OW[24]
;B[jj]BL[72.549]
;W[ih]WL[872.405]OW[23]
;B[hg]BL[69.868]
;W[nf]WL[832.9]OW[22]
;B[ne]BL[62.957]
;W[df]WL[790.868]OW[21]
;B[dg]BL[57.239]
;W[cc]WL[763.143]OW[20]
;B[cd]BL[52.46]
;W[bd]WL[753.493]OW[19]
;B[be]BL[50.092]
;W[bb]WL[750.873]OW[18]
;B[ad]BL[47.614]
;W[eb]WL[747.703]OW[17]
;B[dc]BL[38.838]
;W[db]WL[744.14]OW[16]
;B[bc]BL[37.249]
;W[cb]WL[740.233]OW[15]
;B[fd]BL[35.527]
;W[gc]WL[731.129]OW[14]
;B[gd]BL[33.853]
;W[ib]WL[718.008]OW[13]
;B[ic]BL[28.558]
;W[hb]WL[688.358]OW[12]
;B[jb]BL[25.263]
;W[bs]WL[642.961]OW[11]
;B[aq]BL[19.181]
;W[bl]WL[633.111]OW[10]
;B[bp]BL[15.158]
;W[ri]WL[518.231]OW[9]
;B[om]BL[7.303]
;W[pn]WL[505.131]OW[8]
;B[ol]BL[5.578]
;W[nk]WL[469.433]OW[7]
;B[nl]BL[3.269]
;W[ml]WL[461.226]OW[6]
;B[ok]BL[1.236]
;W[ql]WL[380.733]OW[5]
;B[mk]BL[894.241]OB[24]
;W[kl]WL[366.297]OW[4]
;B[kk]BL[889.549]OB[23]
;W[li]WL[318.178]OW[3]
;B[ll]BL[874.647]OB[22]
;W[lm]WL[279.94]OW[2]
;B[kn]BL[873.059]OB[21]
;W[lk]WL[264.609]OW[1]
;B[jn]BL[845.502]OB[20]
;W[ln]WL[900]OW[25]
;B[ll]BL[840.234]OB[19]
;W[no]WL[898.413]OW[24]
;B[gr]BL[787.707]OB[18]
;W[fq]WL[893.586]OW[23]
;B[nn]BL[781.709]OB[17]
;W[lk]WL[891.338]OW[22]
;B[pi]BL[676.966]OB[16]
;W[qh]WL[878.106]OW[21]
;B[ll]BL[673.974]OB[15]
;W[no]WL[875.28]OW[20]
;B[nj]BL[672.432]OB[14]
;W[mi]WL[815.851]OW[19]
;B[mj]BL[647.591]OB[13]
;W[oj]WL[763.736]OW[18]
;B[pj]BL[640.965]OB[12]
;W[oi]WL[761.159]OW[17]
;B[nn]BL[629.439]OB[11]
;W[lk]WL[757.932]OW[16]
;B[kj]BL[620.032]OB[10]
;W[ki]WL[709.887]OW[15]
;B[nk]BL[600.453]OB[9]
;W[pk]WL[686.076]OW[14]
;B[ls]BL[575.81]OB[8]
;W[pm]WL[636.993]OW[13]
;B[ks]BL[552.708]OB[7]
;W[pl]WL[628.887]OW[12])
I don't usually get to play moyo games like this. It was fun.

Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:08 pm
by fwiffo
Weird, I just had a game last night where I
killed two 3-3 invasions. The first was completely reasonable to kill (though I stumbled during the process, R1 should obviously be at S1), the second was pretty much me getting lucky.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/4/22/fwiffo-Incube.sgf
Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:19 pm
by Chew Terr
Hmmm. Between watching that game and reading some of the recent stuff in the WMS-Magicwand Malkovich, I feel like I've learned a few things today about fighting unreasonable 3-3 invasions. Thanks for sharing =D
Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:13 pm
by topazg
I'm amazed Black didn't play N16 at move 43 - did he not realise the ladder worked??
Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:18 pm
by topazg
$$Bcm43 Working ladder
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 9 . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . 3 6 7 O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . B 2 4 5 . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . X O W 1 . . O X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X X . . . . O X . |
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Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:22 pm
by Chew Terr
topazg wrote:I'm amazed Black didn't play N16 at move 43 - did he not realise the ladder worked??
Well, like I said, it was a fast game, which is why I wasn't as serious in my reading as I would've been in a serious game. And I'm embarassed to admit, I thought my stones to the side broke the ladder, which they don't... quite.
Edit: Sigh, back to chapter one of Lessons~

Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:30 pm
by topazg
Chew Terr wrote:topazg wrote:I'm amazed Black didn't play N16 at move 43 - did he not realise the ladder worked??
Well, like I said, it was a fast game, which is why I wasn't as serious in my reading as I would've been in a serious game. And I'm embarassed to admit, I thought my stones to the side broke the ladder, which they don't... quite.
Edit: Sigh, back to chapter one of Lessons~

Hehe, see, you can hear Kageyama chastising you already - told you the book worked

Re: Unusual games
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:12 pm
by fwiffo
Don't be too embarrassed - check out when my 4k opponent misread an even easier ladder at move 62. Of course, It's slightly mitigated by me missing O12 at move 55...
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/4/15/adaptor-fwiffo.sgf