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77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:05 pm
by DIV
Ok all, welcome. This is closed joseki reference. 6.5 komi, japanese scoring. Hide tags are offlimits for players. Good luck and have fun robinz.

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A 3-4 here and then depending on which corner he takes and how, decide between a 4-4 or another enclosure friendly. Then immediately move in on one of his corners if he plays ones that could benefit from enclosure or play an enclosure or near an open hoshi somewhere depending on his play. Not entirely sure how I want to start.

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:26 am
by robinz
Yes, indeed, have fun DIV - this is certainly a first time for me, and I think it is for you too; let's hope we can both learn something from it :)

As this is my first time, and I've not really posted on this board before, so no-one will know me, just a few words about myself by way of introduction, and how I intend to do this. I started playing only a few months ago - I'm quite interested in the game, and spend quite a bit of time reading about the game on the internet ( on sites like this one :D ), but I'm still pretty new to the game and know I have a lot to learn. I've slowly got myself up to 12k on KGS, and hope to get to SDK by the end of the year, but we'll see...

As far as this game is concerned, I'll try to make at least one move a day - most days I'd like to make more, but I think my opponent and I are in fairly mutually incompatible timezones, so that might not be possible very often. There might be the occasional day where I'm busy and won't get to move, but I'll try to mention those in advance.

I'm going to try to put down most of the thoughts I have had for each move - hopefully this won't lead to masses of boring text and diagrams, but if it does then members of the audience should feel free to point it out. While I realise that a game between two DDKs probably isn't very interesting for most of the audience, I'm hoping we pick up a few comments, as I think this is a great format for improving one's game - not only can individual moves get criticised, but also the thought processes behind them. To members of the audience: feel free to criticise my moves all you want; I know what I'm letting myself in for, and am hopefully big enough to take it :lol: (Needless to say, I won't read anything within a "hide" tag till the game is over, unless specifically told that I can.)

Enough waffle, time for my move:

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At this stage of my go "career", I'm always starting with 4-4 points, whether as white or black - the style seems to suit me; I like the idea of finishing with a corner (for the time being) in just one move, and the very few joseki I know are all ones starting from the 4-4 point. I find that opponents at about my level are generally in quite a rush to invade at the 3-3, which suits me fine - I like the nice wall that results (even if I almost certainly don't yet know the best way to use it) :D

So, the only question in my mind is which 4-4 point to play. I don't have much experience of diagonal fuseki, so when playing White I tend to start in the opposite corner, and would certainly have done so if my opponent had played a 4-4 point as their first move. But, with the 3-4 played, my natural approach moves will work best if I have a stone in the upper-left corner, so that's what I'm going to do. For my next move I'll either make an approach move to the top-right (probably the high approach, as it seems more fun), or take the remaining corner if it will still leave me with a couple of decent approach-move options. While I haven't yet actually learnt any specific joseki for this situation, I'll hope I can think on my feet enough to get some kind of decent result which would finish in sente for me to make the first move in the remaining corner.

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:49 pm
by DIV
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[go]$$crobinz/DIV 3
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His 4-4 makes me want to use a 4-4, keep things even. I want to use my playing first advantage to make as many big plays as possible by pushing him around in sente.

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:45 am
by robinz
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[go]$$crobinz/DIV 4
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OK, I've changed my mind a bit (not that it was ever fully made up), and decided to go ahead and take the last corner. I expect my opponent to now go ahead and complete his shimari in the upper-right, but then at least I get sente to approach the lower-right 4-4 stone, which doesn't seem too bad. While I don't know many of the joseki for 3-4 approaches (and for this reason certainly don't want to go near the avalanche at this stage...), it looks like it would be difficult for me to end in sente given the need to settle the group I'd be creating. It feels like I'm on much safer ground playing this way :)

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:09 am
by DIV
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I decided to play the enclosure here, I expect him to approach my four four in a not overly aggressive way. I feel like I want to make a straight 3-3 invasion this game, but it will all depend on the next few moves.

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:15 am
by robinz
Looks like we're on the forum at the same time for once :)

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[go]$$crobinz/DIV 6
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As expected.

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:29 am
by topazg
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[go]$$Wcm6 robinz vs DIV - Move 6
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I'm not keen on this. For one thing, I tend to approach the top right instead of taking the last corner in this fuseki anyway, but that's preference only, whereas this seems to help Black develop as he wants. I'm not sure between "a" and "b" for :b9:, but probably "b" as it makes a more standard shape with the lower right corner enclosure. Either way, I'd play instead as the following for White:

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[go]$$Wcm6 robinz vs DIV - Move 6
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Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:40 am
by DIV
Seems that way, I am usually up this late, haha, just need to remember to check the forum at this hour.

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[go]$$crobinz/DIV 7
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ok, going for a simple joseki I know that this point:
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This leaves me with sente which I plan to use to approach white's 4-4 at top left, preferably in a way to develop toward my enclosure on top right.


EDIT: keep forgetting to change move number!

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:53 am
by topazg
Hi guys, I've taken the liberty in case you are interested of giving a diagram with move numbers in case it helps :)

Key

B = Colour to move
c = has a caption (text after move number)
m7 = The number that will appear on the move with "1" on the diagram (after which they increment obviously)

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[go]$$Bcm7 robinz vs DIV - Move 7
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Also, some hidden comments for observers:

As before, I prefer high here, but also, Black has something interesting to consider as an alternative to the 3-3. I probably wouldn't choose it here because White has D4 (EDIT: Actually, I change my mind. It counters some of White's influence along the bottom from D4 quite nicely, maybe it's appropriate after all!), but it's always a variation to consider if White opts to slide, and it can work well towards building a right side moyo:

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[go]$$Bcm7 robinz vs DIV - Move 7
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Black then normally plays "a" as long as there is no ladder breaker around "b" - if there is, this is not normally a good joseki choice in my experience. Also, sometimes :w14: is at :w16:, in which case Black plays :b15: at :w14:

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:56 am
by DIV
Ah, thanks Topaz. Much appreciated, I wasn't quite sure how to do it properly as I've had some confusion in the past once it goes over 10 (or something like that.)

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:07 am
by robinz
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[go]$$Wcm8 robinz vs DIV - Move 8
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This is one of the very few joseki I know, and I'm fine with the resulting position so I'm going to play it. I think I've read somewhere that this slide is sometimes omitted in order to leave an option for invading the corner later, but I'm not sure what the sequence is, and it doesn't look easy to live (and certainly with not much territory) when my opponent blocks at Q3 - and anyway, I don't mind letting black have the corner for a few extra points on the side. Afterwards I have options for invading in the middle on the right (plenty of space to live on either side as of yet, plus it will stop the ideal extension from his enclosure), or playing the big points on the left or on top. Of course, I won't have sente, so my opponent can take one of these for himself, but he can't stop me doing everything.


topazg - nice to see a player of your experience watching and commenting; I hope it isn't anything too rude, I normally manage to avoid making a fatal mistake until move 10 or so :razz:

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:10 am
by topazg
robinz wrote:topazg - nice to see a player of your experience watching and commenting; I hope it isn't anything too rude, I normally manage to avoid making a fatal mistake until move 10 or so :razz:


Ah, you do me too much credit.

I decided it would make good use of a Malkovich game to pick one to deliberately choose to follow and make comments on, I figure it's worth trying to make the games as valuable as possible, for what my opinion is worth anyway! - nothing too rude yet, I promise ;)

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:25 am
by DIV
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[go]$$Bcm9 robinz vs DIV - Move 9
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Ok, this is exactly what I wanted. I guess it depends on this move from White. Here is one of my hopes:

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[go]$$Wcm10 robinz vs DIV
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Pretty mutual except for my two stone advantage over any approach to my top right.



EDIT: And yea, Topaz, good to have you around for this, even if i can't read until later. I'm sure your presence will bring a lot of the other high level guys into this DDK situation, plus, so handsome :o ... hahaha.

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:31 am
by robinz
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[go]$$Wcm10 robinz vs DIV - Move 10
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Not much to say here - the sequence I expected. Let's see where he plays now!

Re: 77: robinz[12k] v. DIV[12k]

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:34 am
by DIV
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[go]$$Bcm11 robinz vs DIV - Move 11
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Ok, all going how I want it, though I'm not entirely sure how great a strategy this is yet...though I imagine it's fairly orthodox against two 4-4's when I have a shimari...
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