[go]$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I've totally lost my train of thought on this game. Coming back to it, that White center looks huge ... I wonder if my opponent can close it all off? I took a lot of profit along the edges and the corner, neglecting influence for the most part. While the game still feels relatively even, I can't help for feel like I'm slowly losing ground.
I would like to get both K18 and S12 ... both would make me feel more secure. However, this fight on the bottom is more urgent, in my opinion. White is forcing me to cut off his two stones. I should oblige him and cut them off.
We'll have to see where this ends.
Re: Malkovich #9 - Hummingbird Cyborg vs Marcus316
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:35 am
by Hummingbird Cyborg
$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Maybe something like this?
I feel like I'm getting good value for my two stones. If I can get enough territory in the center and break up black's territory enough, I think I should be in good shape.
$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 1 X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , 4 . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . 3 1 X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , 4 . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I that my two stones have enough aji to help me here.
Re: Malkovich #9 - Hummingbird Cyborg vs Marcus316
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:11 pm
by Hummingbird Cyborg
This is my very rough estimate of the score. if things continue as they have been.
The problem is that black's score has a lot of potential along the sides.
I think that I can't win this game.
$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | C C C C . . . . . . . . . . . . M M M | $$ | . . C C . . . O O . . . . . . X M M M | $$ | . . C O . . X X X X . O . . . . M M M | $$ | . O C . . X M M M M . . . O . X M M M | $$ | . X O O O . M M X X . . . . . . X M M | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X M M | $$ | M M M . . O O O O . . O . C C C O X . | $$ | M M M . . . . . C C C C C C C C O . . | $$ | M M M . . . . . C C C C C C C C . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . C C C C C C C C . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . C C C C C C C C . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . C C C C C C O C . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . C C C C C . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O C C C . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . X P X . | $$ | . . X , . . . P P M M X . . . X P M M | $$ | . . . . . . . M X X M X O O . X P X M | $$ | . . . . . . . M M M M M . . . X X M M | $$ | . . . . . . . M M M M M . . . M M M M | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm73 Move - 73; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | C C C C . . . . . . . . . . . . M M M | $$ | . . C C . . . O O . . . . . . X M M M | $$ | . . C O . . X X X X . O . . . . M M M | $$ | . O C . . X M M M M . . . O . X M M M | $$ | . X O O O . M M X X . . . . . . X M M | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X M M | $$ | M M M . . O O O O . . O . C C C O X . | $$ | M M M . . . . . C C C C C C C C O . . | $$ | M M M . . . . . C C C C C C C C . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . C C C C C C C C . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . C C C C C C C C . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . C C C C C C O C . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . C C C C C . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O C C C . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . X X X X O O O . X P X . | $$ | . . X , . . . P P M M X . . . X P M M | $$ | . . . . . . . M X X M X O O . X P X M | $$ | . . . . . . . M M M M M . . . X X M M | $$ | . . . . . . . M M M M M . . . M M M M | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
= 65 = 58
I have to truly outplay my opponent here if I hope to win.
Because we are also not playing with komi.
I also want to try my darndest to get the biggest yose plays.
Re: Malkovich #9 - Hummingbird Cyborg vs Marcus316
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:17 am
by Marcus
$$Bcm75 Move - 75; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm75 Move - 75; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
When you are pushing, it is good to get ahead. It's not small if black gets to turn here.
This should be sente.
And I should be able to use the aji of my stones to invade on the bottom left more easily and then I just have to try to connive black out of a position on the left.
$$Bcm75 Move - 75; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm77 Move - 77; White Prisoners - 0; Black Prisoners - 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . . 1 . . O O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Ok, let's push further into the center.
To be honest, I'm not sure this is a good idea. However, this game is becoming a lot of fun! Time to simply play and see what my opponent does in response.
$$Bcm77 Possible? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X X X X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . , . X . . . , . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X X . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X X O X X X O . . . . O . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . O O O O . . O . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . 8 O . . . . . . . . O . O | $$ | . . . . . 9 1 3 4 O O . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . . 7 6 2 X X X O O O . X O X . | $$ | . . X , . 5 . O O , . X . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X X . X O O . X O X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
= 65
= 58