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High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:28 pm
by walleye
I've made an image of the high-dan game network, using the games they played in December 2010. Any comments will be much appreciated.

A link to the image and a short description are at http://senseis.xmp.net/?KGSHighDanGameNetwork

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:45 am
by Numsgil
Fun graph. Maybe use some extra colors for different players' lines. Near the center it's less a web and more a giant gray slab with circles on top :)

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:01 am
by Li Kao
And the ranks seem to be wrong too. For example woodyy is 3d

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:12 pm
by walleye
Li Kao wrote:And the ranks seem to be wrong too. For example woodyy is 3d

Nice catch. I fixed that.

Numsgil wrote:Fun graph. Maybe use some extra colors for different players' lines. Near the center it's less a web and more a giant gray slab with circles on top :)

I added different shades of grey for the lines. Does it look any better now?

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:54 pm
by walleye
A few more game networks, for 4k, 3k, 2k, 1k, 1d.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?KGSRankedGameNetworks

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:36 am
by Ember
LOL.. I wanted to look at the picture and just got a white screen, so I thought it diddn't work for me. After having looked more closely I saw that it was just the (empty) top-left corner of this amazing picture. :D Great job!

Just out of interest as an information specialist (in training): Which programme did you use to analyse the data and make that picture?

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:20 pm
by freegame
how much games did hoog6 and tamagon play together??? (4k picture) :o
I don't know how much games they played together but it must be a HUGE amount. there line is almost 10 times wider than any other.

the total games of Yongkey (1k picture) is also very impressive by the looks of it.

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:03 pm
by Dusk Eagle
139 games between the two of them, apparently. In all but one, hoo6 was black, even though the games were even and hoo6 won a clear majority of them.

Also, yongkey has apparently played over 15,000 games on KGS. I've only played 500. That's insane.

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:49 am
by freegame
can you make them on request?
I might be interested in one from one of my accounts

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:11 am
by Li Kao
A L19 network would be interesting (including free games)

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:05 pm
by walleye
Dusk Eagle wrote:Also, yongkey has apparently played over 15,000 games on KGS. I've only played 500. That's insane.

yongkey is not the champion though. TheCaptain played more. If I had to bet, I would put my money on shui48.

Ember wrote:Just out of interest as an information specialist (in training): Which programme did you use to analyse the data and make that picture?

There are many programs and libraries for the social network analysis. The one I used is http://igraph.sourceforge.net/

freegame wrote:can you make them on request?
I might be interested in one from one of my accounts

I can. What do you have in mind?

Li Kao wrote:A L19 network would be interesting (including free games)

All I need for that is a list of usernames.

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:38 pm
by Marcus
I now really want to see one for L19 ... though I don't think many of us play each other on KGS all that often. :)

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:27 am
by Mef
Marcus wrote:I now really want to see one for L19 ... though I don't think many of us play each other on KGS all that often. :)



Perhaps a better graph would show connections for people who post in the same threads (instead of playing each other in games) (=

It could show us if L19 is one big community, or several sub-communities.

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:55 am
by freegame
walleye wrote:
Ember wrote:Just out of interest as an information specialist (in training): Which programme did you use to analyse the data and make that picture?

There are many programs and libraries for the social network analysis. The one I used is http://igraph.sourceforge.net/

freegame wrote:can you make them on request?
I might be interested in one from one of my accounts

I can. What do you have in mind?


I just installed the software, but do not have any idea how to imput large amounts of data.
I assume you did not type it in all by hand :)
Maybe a brief description of how to put in the data would be easier than make graphs for everyone.

Re: High-dan game network

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:57 am
by freegame
Mef wrote:
Marcus wrote:I now really want to see one for L19 ... though I don't think many of us play each other on KGS all that often. :)



Perhaps a better graph would show connections for people who post in the same threads (instead of playing each other in games) (=

It could show us if L19 is one big community, or several sub-communities.


Sounds like a very nice idea.
I bet the malkovich part is quite separated from the rest.
although most people who play there are usually people who post a lot in other parts as well.