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Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:13 am
by The Pilgrim
Hi, I've just come here (was on GD before) for the first time and I'm pleased to find a new working forum !

Here I would like a review for both black and white side. This game was played even (0,5 komi)
Thanks for the help :)


Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:18 pm
by hoohoo
Some opening comments untill something better comes.

M5 : I dont like this but thats all :)
M7 : I think this is an error in direction you can easily become overconcentrated on the bottom and since k3 is low your potential is bad. If you really want to go trough with this joseki you should choose the p4 variation. But i think your alot better of pincering. If i got to decide you would pick the fighting variation of o4. (White should wedge on the left or choose the two space approach to avoid this.)
M11 : p4 instead
M17 : Slow i would take c4 instead
M45 : I would take n6 or a big point like k16 instead you can manage
M55 : Feels aji keshi

more later writing on an essay :)

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:44 am
by Andreas
What I notice that a lot of "forcing" moves are answered even though they arent really threatening crucial stones. For example, move 48 could be answered on the other side, and move 77 just threatens to cut a worthless tail, instead of answering it just surround the black group in the upper left.

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:14 am
by The Pilgrim
I don't see move 48... Or maybe you're talking about move 47 ? White should L16 and not N16 ?

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:09 am
by Andreas
49 should make a bamboo joint below instead of connecting to the right

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:24 pm
by The Pilgrim
Ok I didn't spot this move. The bamboo joint is clearly better (and black won't lose a lot on the upper side)

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:49 pm
by SHADENINJA
I didn't look at this entire game but ill tell you what I saw. Black played carelessly at some points. His moves lack shape, and in the northwest he played too high and loose near white influence leaving an open skirt that could be attacked later.

Sometimes it is better to make the obvious move and not an unexpected one. If you feel like you can be cut or divided, there is probably a better move to be made.

White seemed to play much better early on, but she was perhaps too offensive. Each player should go over this game again, especially when the fighting was most intense, and think about whether the fight is more valuable than the big influence moves on the board.

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:37 am
by Magicwand
91: wrong!!! you gave him possible eye. should have been O12.

some complicated problem..i can see that you might miss.
but something like this is a basic and not being careful.
if you want to improve. dont ever make this kind of mistake.

Re: Game review 2k-4k no handi

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:55 am
by The Pilgrim
Thx for the comment. I'll try to improve my shape in my future games.
91 is a mistake of my too fast playing bad habit :-?