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Tsumego from a game

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:06 pm
by Phelan
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[go]$$ Position at move 102: Status of top White group
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . W W X W W . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I wasn't sure I could kill it, so I didn't try really hard. I looked at it after the game, and thought others might want to try. No solution from my side.
Game is attached.

Re: Tsumego from a game

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:09 pm
by mw42
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[go]$$
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O Q O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
What do I win?!
Here are three quick things I saw immediately. I didn't think too long on it, though, so maybe someone can expand on it.

Re: Tsumego from a game

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:24 pm
by Phelan
A fantastic set of 9 black stones, in a double Tee formation! :P

Actually, I meant the White group at the very top. I've made it clearer now.

Re: Tsumego from a game

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:26 pm
by mw42
Phelan wrote:A fantastic set of 9 black stones, in a double Tee formation! :P

Actually, I meant the White group at the very top. I've made it clearer now.
I know. I was just being silly. :lol: Anyway, I posted something relevant in an edit of my post.

Re: Tsumego from a game

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:29 am
by topazg
In response to mw42's suggestion:
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[go]$$
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 5 . O . . 4 2 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . O . . 3 2 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O 4 X 7 . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . 6 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . 8 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White's alive, no?

EDIT: Actually, it seems the top one is dead - there's lots of local aji though. Maybe better is:


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[go]$$
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 8 . O . 6 . 2 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O O X O O 4 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . X , X . . 5 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O X X X O O X |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . X X O X O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , X X O O X X X O . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . X O . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . X . O . O O . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . , . . X X X O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . . . . . X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Tsumego from a game

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:34 am
by mw42
Indeed. I was trying to keep it as local as possible, imagining black to be thick all around. Even though I did use that attachment in one of my variations. :scratch:

Re: Tsumego from a game

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:41 pm
by Phelan
Interesting variations, thanks!
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