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Yet another fighting game
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:14 pm
by whitelotus7
This game I beat my opponent pretty handily, but I was looking for comments on possible shapes my opponent could have exploited to turn it around. He also wanted to have it reviewed, so tips for either side would be appreciated. Also, please ignore move 97 on my part, it was extremely stupid, and I realized it immediately after I played the stone. I was concerned about keeping that chain connected to my live group for some reason.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2011/3/14/SenteProof-whitelotu5.sgf
Also, after making it to 9kyu and then not playing for a few days I moved back to 10kyu. Does this happen normally?
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:45 pm
by EdLee
EDIT: B move 9 notes, thanks to Shaddy.
(;CA[utf-8]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]GM[1]FF[4]ST[2]C[B total time used, ~17 mins, average 13 secs/move.
W total time used, ~14 mins, average 11 secs/move.How much time seems fair to review each side?]
AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]RU[Japanese]DT[2011-03-14]PC[KGS]PB[whitelotu5]BR[10k]PW[SenteProof]
WR[9k]KM[0.5]TM[1500]RE[B+Resign]MULTIGOGM[0]
;B[pd]BL[1499.2];W[dp]WL[1495.1];B[pp]BL[1492.15];W[dc]WL[1489.48];B[fq]BL[1486.72]
;W[ce]WL[1484.02]
(;B[dr]BL[1459.93]C[Too easy on W. See var.]
(;W[cr]WL[1479.74]LB[cq:a]C[W cannot attach here because the B (a) hane kills this stone. See var.]
(;B[cq]BL[1453.1]C[Correct for B. Compare with var. Thanks, Shaddy.];W[dq]WL[1470.83]
;B[br]BL[1446.65];W[er]WL[1469.43];B[cs]BL[1439.58];W[eq]WL[1462.07]TR[dr][fq]SQ[er]
[eq]LB[co:a]C[In this case, this broken shape for B is OK. Next B jumps to (a). The 4 W stones can be a burden for W later.]
(;B[bo]BL[1436.57]C[See var.];W[cp]WL[1451.54];B[bp]BL[1434.56];W[fp]WL[1450.43]
;B[jc]BL[1410.9]
(;W[hc]WL[1446.34]C[Small and slow. See vars.]
(;B[mc]BL[1407.63]C[See var.];W[qj]WL[1441.72];B[qm]BL[1402.15];W[qf]WL[1436.67]
(;B[qd]BL[1396.53]C[See var.];W[ph]WL[1404.76];B[jq]BL[1372.96];W[gq]WL[1401.79]
(;B[mq]BL[1369.96]C[See var.];W[dj]WL[1391.7];B[dn]BL[1298.09];W[cm]WL[1367.02]
(;B[ck]BL[1276.87]C[See var.];W[cn]WL[1363.81];B[co]BL[1274.33];W[do]WL[1358.07]
;B[dm]BL[1272.6]
(;W[cl]WL[1351.5]C[See var.];B[dl]BL[1268.96];W[dk]WL[1348.92];B[bk]BL[1259.92]
(;W[bl]WL[1328.84]C[See var.];B[al]BL[1250.81];W[am]WL[1321.48];B[bn]BL[1219.07]
;W[ak]WL[1317.1];B[bm]BL[1216.06];W[bj]WL[1307.55];B[al]BL[1213.72];W[bl]WL[1305.19]
;B[cl]BL[1209.82];W[cj]WL[1295.11];B[an]BL[1200.24];W[he]WL[1292.14];B[je]BL[1158.59]
;W[hj]WL[1287.85];B[gm]BL[1151.37];W[fj]WL[1264.75];B[ig]BL[1141.49];W[hg]WL[1262.1]
;B[hf]BL[1136.04];W[gf]WL[1255.86];B[if]BL[1133.94];W[hh]WL[1252.61];B[ii]BL[1124.53]
;W[ij]WL[1234.47];B[hi]BL[1116.47];W[gi]WL[1233.3];B[jj]BL[1094.71];W[ji]WL[1230.89]
;B[ih]BL[1093.36];W[ki]WL[1222.31];B[jk]BL[1089.12];W[hm]WL[1216.45];B[gk]BL[1076.05]
;W[fk]WL[1209.81];B[gj]BL[1067.67];W[hk]WL[1195.23];B[gl]BL[1064.31];W[hl]WL[1193.83]
;B[gn]BL[1019.87];W[hn]WL[1172.96];B[ho]BL[975.022];W[jm]WL[1161.71];B[lk]BL[966.384]
;W[mi]WL[1148.47];B[li]BL[956.63];W[kj]WL[1129.87];B[kk]BL[921.439];W[lj]WL[1128.37]
;B[lm]BL[892.13];W[io]WL[1123.23];B[hp]BL[885.785];W[ip]WL[1118.95];B[iq]BL[883.874]
;W[hq]WL[1111.17];B[fo]BL[873.038];W[go]WL[1104.58];B[oj]BL[820.384];W[ok]WL[1070.52]
;B[nj]BL[805.255];W[mj]WL[1015.06];B[mk]BL[790.255];W[nk]WL[1012.71];B[oh]BL[759.992]
;W[me]WL[984.467];B[of]BL[750.496];W[nh]WL[976.548];B[pi]BL[716.789];W[pj]WL[962.365]
;B[oi]BL[707.673];W[og]WL[960.493];B[qi]BL[703.216];W[ri]WL[928.5];B[pg]BL[692.712]
;W[qh]WL[909.212];B[ng]BL[690.447];W[oe]WL[906.245];B[lh]BL[670.46];W[ni]WL[864.522]
;B[og]BL[666.845];W[mg]WL[857.272];B[rh]BL[664.638];W[qg]WL[825.14];B[rj]BL[645.792]
;W[nf]WL[813.538];B[si]BL[643.624];W[kg]WL[812.051];B[lf]BL[633.759];W[mf]WL[794.323]
;B[lg]BL[629.102];W[kf]WL[777.839];B[le]BL[620.696];W[ke]WL[769.05];B[ld]BL[613.235]
;W[pf]WL[743.023];B[ri]BL[611.345];W[ql]WL[733.398];B[pl]BL[584.106];W[rk]WL[716.962]
;B[mh]BL[566.949];W[kd]WL[709.256];B[kh]BL[561.748];W[jd]WL[698.621];B[ie]BL[495.093]
;W[id]WL[685.22];B[ge]BL[492.667];W[hd]WL[677.599];B[ff]BL[490.093];W[gg]WL[661.834]
;B[fg]BL[484.977];W[gh]WL[658.918];B[fi]BL[482.377])
(;W[el]))
(;W[dl]))
(;B[cn]))
(;B[oq]))
(;B[qh]))
(;B[je]))
(;W[qf])
(;W[qj]))
(;B[co]))
(;B[dq];W[cq];B[ep];W[do];B[en]LB[cq:a]C[This result is much better for W than in the game. So the B (a) hane in the game is correct. Thanks, Shaddy.]))
(;W[cq]))
(;B[cn]C[W tenuki, so B can double approach to attack W.]))
Re: Yet another fighting game
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:59 pm
by whitelotus7
Thanks Ed, I was thinking about doing the double approach, but I wasn't sure how I would go from there. For some reason I thought I could make more liberties when we were in the capturing race with the chains of three stones each, but playing it out I would have died. I guess my opponent thought the same thing.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:23 am
by EdLee
whitelotus7 wrote:I was thinking about doing the double approach, but I wasn't sure how I would go from there.
Yes, the double approach (on the 3rd or 4th line) is a lot of materials, but the first step is to play it and learn from there.
Re: Yet another fighting game
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:11 am
by whitelotus7
Fair enough! I guess the only way to learn to swim is to go into the water, if I ever get the chance, I'll give the double approach a try!
Re: Yet another fighting game
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:45 am
by Shaddy
Ed, I disagree with your variation at 8- I think the game var was correct up to the knight's move, because your way seems to just give white a lot of corner territory for some okish shape in return.
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:55 pm
by EdLee
Shaddy wrote:Ed, I disagree with your variation at 8...
W move 8 attach was bad, but you're correct about B move 9. SGF edited, thank you.