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Endgame tesuji from game

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:52 pm
by emeraldemon
Black to play:
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[go]$$ Position at move 259
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O O O X . . . . X O O . O X . X X . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . X X O . O O X O X . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . X O . . O X X . . X |
$$ | . . O X X X X O . X O O . O O X . X O |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X O O X O O X X X X O |
$$ | O O O X . O O O X X X X X O O X O O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . X O O X . . . O O O X O |
$$ | X . X X O . . . O X O O O O O X X X X |
$$ | . X . X O O O . O X X O O X X . . X . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X X O X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O O X O O X X O . . O O X O X . |
$$ | . O O . O X X X X O O O . . . O O X . |
$$ | O O X O O X . X . X O X . O . X O . O |
$$ | O X X X O O X . X O O O . . . X O O . |
$$ | X . . X X O X X X X X X O X O O X X X |
$$ | . X . X O O . O O O O X O O O X X O X |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . . . . . . O O X . X O X |
$$ | . . X X X X O . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I played black in this game. It was a close game, so not seeing this move may have lost it for me. It was only looking over the game afterwards that I noticed this point.

Re: Endgame tesuji from game

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:19 pm
by SoDesuNe
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[go]$$ Position at move 259
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O O O X . . . . X O O . O X . X X . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . X X O . O O X O X . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . X O . . O X X . . X |
$$ | . . O X X X X O . X O O . O O X . X O |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X O O X O O X X X X O |
$$ | O O O X . O O O X X X X X O O X O O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . X O O X . . . O O O X O |
$$ | X . X X O . . . O X O O O O O X X X X |
$$ | . X . X O O O . O X X O O X X . . X . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X X O X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O O X O O X X O . . O O X O X . |
$$ | . O O . O X X X X O O O . 4 1 O O X . |
$$ | O O X O O X . X . X O X . O 2 X O 5 O |
$$ | O X X X O O X . X O O O . . . X O O 3 |
$$ | X . . X X O X X X X X X O X O O X X X |
$$ | . X . X O O . O O O O X O O O X X O X |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . . . . . . O O X . X O X |
$$ | . . X X X X O . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Eh?

Re: Endgame tesuji from game

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:26 pm
by Dusk Eagle
I think this is better for white:
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[go]$$ Position at move 259
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O O O X . . . . X O O . O X . X X . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . X X O . O O X O X . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . X O . . O X X . . X |
$$ | . . O X X X X O . X O O . O O X . X O |
$$ | . . O X . O X X X O O X O O X X X X O |
$$ | O O O X . O O O X X X X X O O X O O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . X O O X . . . O O O X O |
$$ | X . X X O . . . O X O O O O O X X X X |
$$ | . X . X O O O . O X X O O X X . . X . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O X X O X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O O X O O X X O . . O O X O X . |
$$ | . O O . O X X X X O O O . . 1 O O X . |
$$ | O O X O O X . X . X O X . O 2 X O 5 O |
$$ | O X X X O O X . X O O O . . 4 X O O 3 |
$$ | X . . X X O X X X X X X O X O O X X X |
$$ | . X . X O O . O O O O X O O O X X O X |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O O X X . . O . |
$$ | . X . X O O . . . . . . O O X . X O X |
$$ | . . X X X X O . . . . . O X X X . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Re: Endgame tesuji from game

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:33 pm
by SoDesuNe
Most certainly ; )

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:35 pm
by EdLee
Either way, W+10.5 ... can B do better?

Re: Endgame tesuji from game

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:02 pm
by emeraldemon
Yup, you all found it :) . @ EdLee: it was a no-komi (handicap) game, and I had two more prisoners, so I think the actual difference would be something more like W+2.5 if I had found this tesuji. Not quite enough, I guess. In the game it sat for a while before white defended, I'm not sure if white didn't see it either, or was just counting on me not finding it.