My strategy here will be to make as many complications as possible in the limited space I have. I only have to live in one place, so I figure if I have five groups floating around, Magicwand won't have time to kill all of them . So in any situation, if I can cut, I'll cut. If I can't cut, I'll still cut.
Re: Killovitch 1: Magicwand vs. Shaddy
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:49 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wc Can white still make a living group? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Can white still make a living group? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . X 3 . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Re: Killovitch 1: Magicwand vs. Shaddy
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:20 pm
by mw42
The ladder works for black.
Re: Killovitch 1: Magicwand vs. Shaddy
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:44 pm
by Dusk Eagle
I think Shaddy plays some variation of the killing game quite often. On KGS he's said he's even played it multiple times with Feng Yun 9p.
I still think Magicwand will win. I think Magicwand is stronger than Shaddy, and from my (limited) experience with this game I think it is easier for black than white. If Magicwand kills, it'd be interesting to see them change sides and see Magicwand attempt to live.
Re: Killovitch 1: Magicwand vs. Shaddy
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:54 pm
by Magicwand
$$Wc Can white still make a living group? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wc Can white still make a living group? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . O . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X 5 . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Oh man, he wants to cut already? Here we go!
Re: Killovitch 1: Magicwand vs. Shaddy
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:14 am
by Mnemonic
I must confess that I've never seen this game between two dan players, but I have watched strong kyu players and white always finds life somehow. So my prediction: white will life, but it will take over 100 moves.
[go]$$Wc Can white still make a living group? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . O . X . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X | $$ | . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . X . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Connecting looks good, right? In a game, who wouldn't play it instinctively without a thought, because black's shape gets broken and you get all connected? But that's exactly what he wants. If I connected, black would m11 and then white has a lump that can't do anything meaningful to k8 or m10.
. So in any situation, if I can cut, I'll cut. If I can't cut, I'll still cut.
but i think i know what is waiting at the end...
