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corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:27 am
by LR24
$$c first 10 joseki moves
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 0 . . . . .
$$ | . 8 4 . . 3 . . . .
$$ | . 6 5 1 . . . . . ,
$$ | . 7 9 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$c first 10 joseki moves
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 0 . . . . .
$$ | . 8 4 . . 3 . . . .
$$ | . 6 5 1 . . . . . ,
$$ | . 7 9 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
$$c joseki continuation
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O 1 . . . .
$$ | . O O 4 2 X . . . .
$$ | . O X X 3 . . . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . 5 . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$c joseki continuation
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O 1 . . . .
$$ | . O O 4 2 X . . . .
$$ | . O X X 3 . . . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . 5 . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
My question:$$c What now?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . . . .
$$ | . O X X X W . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$c What now?
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . . . .
$$ | . O X X X W . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU WANT TO SOLVE THE CORNER PROBLEM BELOW YOURSELFPromised Corner problem:$$c Black to play - status of white corner?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . . . .
$$ | . O X X X X . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . a . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$c Black to play - status of white corner?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . . . .
$$ | . O X X X X . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . a . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
There was a white stone at a which I edited out. Not totally sure if it changes anything, you may see it as an extra-question
Re: corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:12 am
by Sverre
LR24 wrote:Promised Corner problem:
Re: corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:48 pm
by Bill Spight
LR24 wrote:My question:$$c What now?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . . . .
$$ | . O X X X W . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$c What now?
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . . . .
$$ | . O X X X W . . ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
$$c What now?
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . 1 . .
$$ | . O X X X O 6 7 ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O 3 2 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$c What now?
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . O X . . . .
$$ | . O O . O X . 1 . .
$$ | . O X X X O 6 7 ,
$$ | . X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O 3 2 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
From the Suzuki-Kitani
Small Joseki Dictionary.
Re: corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:04 pm
by Jonas
Oh boy the move 5 simply looks gorgeous, while so simple I bet I'd have missed it in an actual game.
Re: corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:49 am
by LR24
A late "Thanks" for the replies
I would never come to think about the sequence Bill posted
Re: corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:16 am
by HermanHiddema
For a more interesting corner problem, remove the stone at E16.
So:
$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 7 8 . . . .
$$ | . 5 1 . 9 0 . . . .
$$ | . 3 2 X . B . . . ,
$$ | . 4 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . W . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$W
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 7 8 . . . .
$$ | . 5 1 . 9 0 . . . .
$$ | . 3 2 X . B . . . ,
$$ | . 4 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . W . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
In this joseki (3-3 invasion after black answers the
approach with the high move
), what is the status if white plays tenuki with
?
Re: corner problem after Joseki
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:33 am
by Bill Spight
HermanHiddema wrote:For a more interesting corner problem, remove the stone at E16.
So:
$$W
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 7 8 . . . .
$$ | . 5 1 . 9 0 . . . .
$$ | . 3 2 X . B . . . ,
$$ | . 4 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . W . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
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[go]$$W
$$ ------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . 7 8 . . . .
$$ | . 5 1 . 9 0 . . . .
$$ | . 3 2 X . B . . . ,
$$ | . 4 6 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . W . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
In this joseki (3-3 invasion after black answers the
approach with the high move
), what is the status if white plays tenuki with
?
White needs medical help. He is in critical condition.
