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A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:53 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
I watched a guy named Sunnylucky with a provisional 8D rating on KGS last night. Judging from his name and strength, I suspect that he is a Chinese pro or insei, and was playing his first game of the day. His opponent is a legitimate 5 dan, but who seemed to never really have a chance. I'm posting it because he seems to almost effortlessly keep attacking; and he seldom seems to make an overtly territorial move, but his territory just accumulates.

As of this morning Sunnylucky has played enough games to have a firm rating. It is 9D now.

[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[3]KM[0.50]TM[300]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[SunnyLucky]PB[mustsee]WR[8d]BR[5d]DT[2011-06-09]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp][pp]RE[W+8.50]
;W[dc]WL[293.671]C[mustsee [5d\]: hi
]
;B[df]BL[297.07]C[SunnyLucky [8d?\]: hi
]
;W[ch]WL[279.966]
;B[dd]BL[291.581]
;W[ed]WL[276.876]
;B[cc]BL[289.904]
;W[cb]WL[272.4]
;B[cd]BL[286.573]
;W[eb]WL[270.435]
;B[ee]BL[285.136]
;W[fd]WL[269.35]
;B[bf]BL[283.187]
;W[ck]WL[266.602]
;B[cm]BL[276.368]
;W[jq]WL[260.414]
;B[dq]BL[266.712]
;W[nq]WL[257.457]
;B[qn]BL[264.569]
;W[qf]WL[256.016]
;B[qh]BL[261.569]
;W[ph]WL[246.939]
;B[pi]BL[257.991]
;W[pg]WL[235.702]
;B[qj]BL[238.379]
;W[nd]WL[233.161]
;B[re]BL[219.478]
;W[pc]WL[218.696]
;B[qc]BL[214.297]
;W[oc]WL[217.164]
;B[qb]BL[199.397]
;W[gf]WL[213.942]
;B[ne]BL[155.486]
;W[me]WL[204.667]
;B[oe]BL[151.687]
;W[mf]WL[201.717]
;B[md]BL[136.599]
;W[mc]WL[199.767]
;B[jf]BL[116.163]
;W[ld]WL[196.581]
;B[jh]BL[110.725]
;W[jj]WL[191.378]
;B[jd]BL[105.815]
;W[ig]WL[179.854]
;B[jg]BL[102.539]
;W[li]WL[177.275]
;B[hd]BL[94.647]
;W[fe]WL[171.542]
;B[lg]BL[84.05]
;W[ef]WL[162.033]
;B[bh]BL[66.57]
;W[cg]WL[156.426]
;B[bg]BL[65.081]
;W[bi]WL[153.859]
;B[cf]BL[57.655]
;W[oi]WL[135.877]
;B[mg]BL[28.512]
;W[nf]WL[126.636]
;B[rf]BL[16.678]
;W[pj]WL[118.107]
;B[qi]BL[14.6]
;W[pk]WL[117.317]
;B[mi]BL[6.26]
;W[mj]WL[114.162]
;B[ni]BL[4.145]
;W[nj]WL[112.806]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[oj]WL[111.079]
;B[ng]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[og]WL[100.427]
;B[nh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pe]WL[95.19]
;B[qe]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lh]WL[90.086]
;B[pf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[of]WL[88.045]
;B[kc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ic]WL[77.908]
;B[id]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hb]WL[68.588]
;B[lf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ke]WL[62.437]
;B[le]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kd]WL[46.143]
;B[qg]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[md]WL[43.982]
;B[hf]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jc]WL[39.145]
;B[hi]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[hg]WL[22.777]
;B[ji]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ij]WL[20.764]
;B[hh]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[de]WL[18.74]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fh]WL[7.724]
;B[kj]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[kk]WL[3.849]
;B[hj]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bc]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bd]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[di]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ci]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[dg]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gh]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ei]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[dk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[dl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ek]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[cl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fl]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[el]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[dm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[en]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gn]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[hn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ki]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[lj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[jl]WL[30]OW[5]C[deop [1d\]: j8
]
;B[il]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[im]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: j7
deop [1d\]: :)
deop [1d\]: now black is black :)
]
;B[hl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ik]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: megako
]
;W[jn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fn]WL[30]OW[5]C[akropiv [5k\]: but whit have mege thread :)
]
;B[em]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[km]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[co]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[do]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[cn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[cp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[cq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ao]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[or]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oq]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: clean win for w
Goreon [2d\]: gg
]
;W[nr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[np]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[no]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[op]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Imvatim [2k\]: q5 better than p2?
]
;B[fo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[go]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[lo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ql]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[os]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fc]BL[30]OB[2]C[pjpj: o2, e2
]
;W[ec]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pa]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ob]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oa]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ma]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qa]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ro]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kb]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: man that's big
]
;W[ns]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ps]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[po]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[on]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nl]WL[30]OW[5]C[pjpj: a3, s9
]
;B[kp]BL[30]OB[2]C[pjpj: this seems bigger
]
;W[ko]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ib]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fa]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ga]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ha]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ja]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[od]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lc]WL[30]OW[5]C[pjpj: j2?
]
;B[er]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fr]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: j2 still eyeless
]
;B[gp]BL[30]OB[2]C[Valentine [-\]: n1..
black99 [9k\]: this is getting boring
]
;W[hp]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: boring???
ManInMe [5k\]: then leave
stoneder [3k\]: j14?
Goreon [2d\]: gg imho
black99 [9k\]: it seems b'spushing w
]
;B[ka]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[la]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: it's very close
Goreon [2d\]: yes close
]
;B[hr]BL[30]OB[2]C[Goreon [2d\]: j2ß
]
;W[hq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: oh
]
;B[jr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ir]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[is]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[iq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ls]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ms]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[2]C[Valentine [-\]: if b n1 earlier
]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[5]C[Imvatim [2k\]: lol n1 was the move
Goreon [2d\]: m8 or s9 bigger?
pjpj: yup
]
;B[ea]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: ? this is super success
Goreon [2d\]: smLL
]
;W[da]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ls]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dh]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[eh]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[5]C[Zairex [1d\]: hanami
]
;B[bm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ls]BL[30]OB[1]C[Goreon [2d\]: i think w messed up a winning game
]
;W[so]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: looks like it
black99 [9k\]: y, thats what imean boring\\
]
;B[lq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[5]C[black99 [9k\]: w messed up
]
;B[je]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hs]WL[30]OW[5]C[Zairex [1d\]: nice
Sheeple [1k\]: don't be a chicken b
Imvatim [2k\]: eeeek
]
;B[sp]BL[30]OB[1]C[Sheeple [1k\]: hehe
Sheeple [1k\]: lucky
Zairex [1d\]: 8D
]
;W[ia]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: wooo
Imvatim [2k\]: awww
pjpj: geee
]
;B[ll]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: got rid of the ko for nothing at all. so wow
]
;B[mn]BL[30]OB[1]C[Troglodyte [2k\]: S4 still a prob?
]
;W[ml]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[lm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kf]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kg]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[no]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: the answer is yes :)
DaKing123 [6k\]: another lifechanging ko
]
;B[rr]BL[30]OB[1]C[Sheeple [1k\]: w back in the saddle
Sheeple [1k\]: or as black99 would say, boring :)
]
;W[so]WL[30]OW[5]C[ManInMe [5k\]: XD
Troglodyte [2k\]: Black99 must have interesting non-go life
]
;B[sr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[he]WL[30]OW[5]C[Imvatim [2k\]: couldn't blak just nobi when ws4?
]
;B[if]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[eq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[dr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[aq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ar]BL[30]OB[1]
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;W[cj]WL[30]OW[5]
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;B[qp]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[si]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]C[pjpj: b2
Sheeple [1k\]: w+5 or so
pjpj: b1
]
;W[ge]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sp]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ii]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ri]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ee]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ce]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[be]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[km]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[om]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ep]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[km]WL[30]OW[5]
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;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
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;W[km]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[as]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cs]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[km]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ac]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ab]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ad]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ak]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[aj]BL[30]OB[1]
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;B[fs]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[gs]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[es]BL[30]OB[1]
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;B[ah]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[aa][ba][ca][ea][ga][ja][ka][db][kb][kc][mk][nk][ok][al][ol][pl][rl][sl][bm][cm][om][an][cn][in][bo][ho][io][jo][ip][kp][kq][lq][ar][gr][hr][jr][kr][mr][bs][is][js][ls]TB[pa][ra][sa][ob][rb][sb][oc][pc][rc][sc][qd][rd][sd][ae][pe][se][af][qf][sf][ag][hg][ig][rg][sg][fh][gh][ih][sh][fi][gi][ri][fj][gj][fk][ln][rp][qq][sq][qr][qs][rs][ss]C[mustsee [5d\]: thnx
SunnyLucky [8d?\]: thx
])[/sgf-full]

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:34 pm
by Toge
Interesting game. I sometimes have grim thoughts that some of the high dans on KGS who only play a couple of games and leave it there are really amateurs with inflated ranks or lucky winning sprees. Let's hope SunnyLucky will stick around.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:59 pm
by Magicwand
black is not legit 5d.
i think he plays like 3d.
too many kyuish mistakes by black...white didnt have to do anything to win.

edit:
pro or insei can give that persone 5 stone and probably win

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:05 pm
by illluck
@magicwand: some of black's moves felt off to me too, but then I noticed the time limit :p

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:56 pm
by Magicwand
illluck wrote:@magicwand: some of black's moves felt off to me too, but then I noticed the time limit :p

yea..i didnt see that.. good catch.
but..with that time limit i still would have played better game than that.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:07 pm
by RobertJasiek
Regardless of time limit, Black's fuseki was terrible.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:06 am
by perceval
omg magicwand and RJasiek just agreed on something.
World peace is at hand

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:07 am
by SoDesuNe
And kghin demoted him to 8D again ^^ Killed half the board.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:21 pm
by shapenaji
RJasiek

well, N16 was bad, but the rest of the fuseki seemed fine.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:55 pm
by RobertJasiek
Bad B moves:

B14 D3 R12 S15? P15 N16 K16 S14

Bad B strategy:

not using handicap well

allowing big W top moyo

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:39 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Another provisional 8D popped up yesterday evening, named Milkpiao. He is now unbeaten in 9 games ( including giving JoeyHung 2 stones ) and plays from a Shanghai-based IP.
He is not SunnyLucky, who plays from a Taiwan IP, and who was playing simultaneously.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:00 am
by Hsiang
Joaz -- Is it okay to out the private info of players like you do? Many, like myself, prefer to play privately for our own reasons, and I for one sure don't want you to come out and say this account's IP is from Rochester, New York. Please, at least check with us before you publicize any info about our IP. -- Come to think of it, I am not even sure it is appropriate for you to CHECK the IP or any other derivatives of any KGS accounts without cause.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:49 am
by Li Kao
Is Joaz a kgs admin? Or did some admin post that info in kibitz?

But in general information about IPs shouldn't be published.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:59 am
by Redundant
All the information joaz gave was publicly available on the profiles. Sunnylucky has his language set to Taiwan, and Milkpiao has an email address with a Shanghai based website on his.

Re: A 5D for breakfast

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:56 am
by hyperpape
Redundant wrote:All the information joaz gave was publicly available on the profiles. Sunnylucky has his language set to Taiwan, and Milkpiao has an email address with a Shanghai based website on his.
It's the mention of IPs that's surprising, but Joaz can tell us what he did/meant.