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An extreme influence player
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:10 pm
by thequietcenter
I have commented this game and would appreciate some feedback. I won, but the whole game was entirely scary because of his unorthodox influence-oriented play.
http://eidogo.com/#1nSQaAY
Re: An extreme influence player
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:17 pm
by jts
I'm getting "invalid game data". Can anyone else see the game?
Re: An extreme influence player
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:31 pm
by oren
jts wrote:I'm getting "invalid game data". Can anyone else see the game?
You can find the link here.
http://eidogo.com/#1nSQaAY
Re: An extreme influence player
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:33 pm
by oren
One comment about your own comment...
"I have five liberties, so I can leave the contact fight."
This may be a recommendation from somewhere but you should read and figure this out rather than going on just proverbs. Also just because you can do something, should you do it?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:35 pm
by EdLee
A few ideas:
(;CA[utf-8]ST[2]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]GM[1]FF[4]AP[SmartGo:2.8.3.0]SZ[19]RU[Japanese]
DT[2011-06-09]PC[KGS]PB[metaperl]BR[10k]PW[kouun5]WR[9k]KM[0.5]TM[1500.0]RE[B+R]
MULTIGOGM[0]
;B[pd]BL[1266.6];W[dp]WL[1496.4];B[qp]BL[1261];W[po]WL[1474.7]
(;B[dd]BL[1232.6]C[See var.];W[ee]WL[1469.2];B[pp]BL[1217.8];W[oo]WL[1465.6];B[de]
BL[1193];W[ef]WL[1461.7];B[fq]BL[1166.1];W[fo]WL[1458.2];B[iq]BL[1151.6];W[jp]WL[1454.5]
;B[ip]BL[1146.8];W[io]WL[1451.6];B[ho]BL[1110.3];W[in]WL[1445.3];B[hn]BL[1106.3]
;W[hm]WL[1442]
(;B[hp]BL[931.7]C[See var.];W[gm]WL[1438.1];B[cj]BL[897.9];W[di]WL[1432.2];B[dj]
BL[890.6];W[ej]WL[1429.1];B[ci]BL[823.3];W[ei]WL[1425.2];B[cn]BL[819];W[dm]WL[1422.1]
;B[cm]BL[781.1];W[dn]WL[1417.9]
(;B[dl]BL[766.6]C[See var.];W[el]WL[1414.4];B[ek]BL[708.4];W[fk]WL[1410.9];B[dk]
BL[703];W[fl]WL[1407];B[ki]BL[362.1];W[oe]WL[1398];B[pe]BL[317.5];W[of]WL[1392.3]
;B[pg]BL[284.7];W[og]WL[1387.8];B[ph]BL[281.9];W[oh]WL[1385];B[pi]BL[276.5];W[oi]
WL[1382.2];B[kd]BL[220.1];W[od]WL[1307.6];B[pc]BL[209.4];W[oc]WL[1303.9];B[gi]BL[179.2]
;W[fj]WL[1298];B[gh]BL[170.1]C[Heavy.];W[jh]WL[1295.2];B[ji]BL[165.2];W[kg]WL[1291.8]
;B[ih]BL[114.6];W[lg]WL[1266.3];B[jg]BL[89.7];W[kh]WL[1261.5]
(;B[ig]BL[88.1]C[See var.];W[ij]WL[1258.3];B[ii]BL[48.1];W[je]WL[1239.7];B[ke]BL[14.1]
;W[ie]WL[1236.1];B[ge]BL[0.8];W[hf]WL[1228.7];OB[5]B[gf]BL[30];W[hg]WL[1222];OB[5]
B[gg]BL[30];W[ic]WL[1208.6];OB[4]B[gc]BL[30];W[fd]WL[1201.2];OB[4]B[gd]BL[30];W[fc]
WL[1197.8]
(;OB[4]B[eg]BL[30]C[See var.]
(;W[dg]WL[1188.1]C[See var.];OB[4]B[eh]BL[30];W[dh]WL[1182.5];OB[4]B[df]BL[30];W[dc]
WL[1151.8];OB[3]B[cc]BL[30];W[db]WL[1147.6];OB[3]B[cb]BL[30];W[cf]WL[1141.9];OB[3]
B[ce]BL[30];W[bf]WL[1134.5];OB[3]B[be]BL[30];W[ae]WL[1123.8]
(;OB[2]B[ad]BL[30];W[af]WL[1120.6];OB[2]B[bc]BL[30];W[cg]WL[1111]
(;OB[2]B[gb]BL[30]C[See var.];W[kc]WL[1098.3];OB[2]B[jd]BL[30];W[id]WL[1094.2];OB[2]
B[jc]BL[30];W[jb]WL[1090.9];OB[2]B[kb]BL[30];W[lc]WL[1078];OB[2]B[ib]BL[30];W[hb]
WL[1075.3];OB[2]B[ja]BL[30];W[hc]WL[1048.1];OB[2]B[ha]BL[30];W[co]WL[1005.6];OB[2]
B[bl]BL[30];W[ai]WL[998];OB[2]B[bi]BL[30];W[aj]WL[994.1];OB[2]B[bo]BL[30];W[bp]
WL[990.3];OB[2]B[an]BL[30];W[al]WL[985.8];OB[2]B[bk]BL[30];W[ak]WL[980.4];OB[2]
B[am]BL[30];W[ah]WL[973.6];OB[2]B[dr]BL[30];W[op]WL[964.1];OB[2]B[qo]BL[30];W[pj]
WL[961];OB[2]B[qj]BL[30];W[pk]WL[954.8];OB[2]B[qk]BL[30];W[pf]WL[949.6];OB[2]B[ob]
BL[30];W[qf]WL[946.1];OB[2]B[qi]BL[30];W[nb]WL[940.8];OB[2]B[pb]BL[30];W[ql]WL[937.2]
;OB[2]B[rl]BL[30];W[qm]WL[934.5];OB[2]B[rm]BL[30];W[qn]WL[930.9];OB[2]B[rn]BL[30]
;W[ol]WL[926.2];OB[2]B[rb]BL[30];W[pq]WL[922.2];OB[2]B[qq]BL[30];W[pr]WL[919];OB[2]
B[qr]BL[30];W[ps]WL[913.2];OB[2]B[jq]BL[30];W[kp]WL[909.9];OB[2]B[me]BL[30];W[nd]
WL[902.1];OB[2]B[im]BL[30];W[jn]WL[896.6];OB[2]B[jm]BL[30];W[kn]WL[893.7];OB[2]
B[km]BL[30];W[jj]WL[888.6];OB[2]B[kj]BL[30];W[kk]WL[885.7];OB[2]B[mi]BL[30];W[lk]
WL[881.7];OB[2]B[nj]BL[30];W[oj]WL[877];OB[2]B[hj]BL[30];W[jk]WL[869.9];OB[2]B[nl]
BL[30];W[lm]WL[857.4];OB[2]B[nn]BL[30];W[nm]WL[850];OB[2]B[mm]BL[30];W[om]WL[846]
;OB[2]B[ll]BL[30];W[ln]WL[839.2];OB[2]B[mk]BL[30];W[kl]WL[829];OB[2]B[ml]BL[30]
;W[mn]WL[820.8];OB[2]B[lj]BL[30];W[il]WL[814.6];OB[2]B[lr]BL[30];W[mq]WL[806.2]
;OB[2]B[mr]BL[30];W[nq]WL[803];OB[2]B[mg]BL[30];W[lf]WL[791.1];OB[2]B[mf]BL[30]
;W[mh]WL[754.7];OB[2]B[nh]BL[30];W[lh]WL[750];OB[2]B[le]BL[30];W[qs]WL[661.8];OB[2]
B[rr]BL[30];W[rs]WL[658.9];OB[2]B[so]BL[30];W[rd]WL[648.5];OB[2]B[qd]BL[30];W[rf]
WL[645.4];OB[2]B[rc]BL[30];W[re]WL[640.6];OB[2]B[mb]BL[30];W[mc]WL[636.8];OB[2]
B[na]BL[30];W[lb]WL[633.3];OB[2]B[ma]BL[30];W[la]WL[630.1];OB[2]B[oa]BL[30];W[ka]
WL[624.7];OB[2]B[jb]BL[30];W[nc]WL[618.4];OB[2]B[ng]BL[30];W[si]WL[591.7];OB[2]
B[ri]BL[30];W[sj]WL[584];OB[2]B[sk]BL[30];W[sh]WL[580.7];OB[2]B[rh]BL[30];W[rg]
WL[575.7];OB[2]B[rj]BL[30];W[sg]WL[572.3];OB[2]B[cq]BL[30];W[cp]WL[568.1];OB[2]
B[bq]BL[30];W[ap]WL[565.4];OB[2]B[fp]BL[30];W[eo]WL[562.1];OB[2]B[ni]BL[30];W[ck]
WL[513.4];OB[2]B[bh]BL[30];W[ao]WL[388.4];OB[2]B[bn]BL[30];W[ag]WL[371.2];OB[2]
B[hk]BL[30];W[hl]WL[366.6];OB[2]B[gk]BL[30];W[fh]WL[355.4];OB[2]B[fg]BL[30];W[fi]
WL[352.8];OB[2]B[gl]BL[30];W[gj]WL[344.3];OB[2]B[gn]BL[30];W[fn]WL[340.4];OB[2]
B[hi]BL[30];W[ep]WL[322.7];OB[2]B[eq]BL[30];W[kq]WL[171];OB[2]B[kr]BL[30];W[dq]
WL[165.6];OB[2]B[cr]BL[30];W[aq]WL[162.2];OB[2]B[go]BL[30];W[nr]WL[151.3];OB[2]
B[lq]BL[30];W[lp]WL[148.5];OB[2]B[ns]BL[30];W[os]WL[145.3];OB[2]B[ms]BL[30];W[ar]
WL[130];OB[2]B[br]BL[30];W[bs]WL[124.6];OB[2]B[es]BL[30];W[cs]WL[121.4];OB[2]B[gr]
BL[30];W[as]WL[112.6];OB[2]B[ds]BL[30];W[nk]WL[86.2];OB[2]B[mj]BL[30];W[ed]WL[53.7]
;OB[2]B[da]BL[30];W[ea]WL[41.5];OB[2]B[ca]BL[30];W[sr]WL[36.5];OB[2]B[sq]BL[30]
;W[ss]WL[33.9];OB[2]B[eb]BL[30];W[fs]WL[29.1];OB[2]B[er]BL[30];W[sl]WL[25.2];OB[2]
B[sm]BL[30];W[sc]WL[19.8];OB[2]B[sb]BL[30];W[sd]WL[17.3];OB[2]B[ec]BL[30])
(;B[kf];W[jf];B[jc]))
(;B[cg]
(;W[ch];B[bg];W[af])
(;W[bg];B[ch];W[bh];B[ad];W[bd];B[af];W[ac];B[ae];W[bc];B[bb];W[ca];B[ba];W[da]
;B[bi])))
(;W[df]TR[eg][de]SQ[df][ef][ee]C[Basic broken shape.]))
(;B[kf];W[jf];B[jc]))
(;B[jf]))
(;B[co]))
(;B[gp]LB[im:a][jo:b][gm:c]C[At least here, but B should read all the cuts and hane.]))
(;B[pp]C[B is very happy with this exchange.];W[dd]LB[po:a][pp:b]C[Just think, if you were W, would you play W (a) B (b) now?
So this result is good for B, which means just blocking at (b) was good for B.]))
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:41 pm
by EdLee
oren wrote:"I have five liberties, so I can leave the contact fight."
This may be a recommendation from somewhere...
Exactly; that's one
basic guideline from Mr. Wilcox, who also explained further that
"reading and judgement supersede all proverbs and guidelines" (my paraphrase).
Re: An extreme influence player
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:59 am
by daal
The start of the game makes me think your opponent had read this:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... =18&t=3024