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126. EdLee vs Loons

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:39 am
by EdLee
Even game, 6.5 komi, Japanese rules, open joseki, database, standard hidden comments, etc.
Loons, have a nice game. I'll nigiri:
:black: :black: :black: :black: :black: :black: :black: :black: :black:
I have a busy summer (including US Go Congress in early August) until the end of August,
so I apologize in advance for a possibly extra slow game.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:30 am
by cdybeijing
Very much looking forward to this game.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:30 am
by Loons
Five. Good luck!

Edit: Hah, I always get that mixed up. Do you mind me translating "five" as "odd" ? (If so I play the top right 4-4).

Otherwise, maybe you can guess odd or even, and check this:

thirteen.


And I'll try to avoid getting confused :P.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:34 am
by cdybeijing
Ed's self-proclaimed 4k rank belies his real strength, and from what I have seen from these two, I think he could probably give Loons a handicap. Let's see how this plays out.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:21 am
by Shaddy
Ed claimed he was 4k? He's been 2k on KGS for a pretty long time.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:44 am
by cdybeijing
Shaddy wrote:Ed claimed he was 4k? He's been 2k on KGS for a pretty long time.


It used to be in his user info. I think it's his AGA rank or something. I'm sure he knows that he is stronger than that, though.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:48 am
by Joaz Banbeck
Shaddy wrote:
Ed claimed he was 4k? He's been 2k on KGS for a pretty long time.


He's not sandbagging. We were at a real live AGA tournament in Santa Monica a just last week where bands spanned several ranks, and he was in the section below me.


Besides that, experience has shown that the extra time tends to favor the lower ranked player.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:17 am
by hyperpape
He used to post his AGA rank, but at one point he was quite clear that he thought he was stronger than that when questioned--perhaps by Magicwand.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:34 am
by Kirby
Get into a public argument with Ed about something go related on the forum, and you might find out more about him. ;-)

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:13 am
by Joaz Banbeck
As of today ( without last week's results added in yet ) EdLee's AGA rating is -3.44475. His last two tournaments were net negative, so that rating may not be indicative of his true strength. He could easily be between 2K and 3K AGA.
His recent KGS rating has been fluctuating a bit, from mid 1K to almost the upper edges of 4K.

Loons has been maintaining a steady 1.5K rating on KGS for most of this year. Conventional wisdom is that KGS differs from AGA by about a point, so if he were an AGA member, Loons would have an AGA rating of about 2.5


Overall, I'd say we have a fair game here.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:48 pm
by EdLee
Loons, I'll take your "five" as "5 mod 2" = :black:. I won't read your nigiri stones until after the game. :mrgreen:
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Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:27 pm
by Loons
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Nirensei.

Though, according to that page I have just failed to redress komi in the opening. :P
I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:49 pm
by EdLee
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:batman: Basic.

Re: 126. Loons v. EdLee

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:31 pm
by Loons
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Trigger:
If you play c6, I play d2.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:41 pm
by EdLee
Loons, I'm not quite sure how to use triggers. Your trigger was hidden, so I was not supposed to look at it, right?
It was only for observers, yes? :)
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