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Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:29 pm
by trout
In the first game, Chen won by 5.5.
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:58 am
by trout
Chen Yaoe won 2nd game by resign and took Combined Tengen title.
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:56 am
by Joaz Banbeck
Thanks for the news. Got links to game records?
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:01 pm
by Solomon
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KM[7.5]
EV[15th China-Korea Tengen 1st round]
FF[3]
SZ[19]
GM[1]
PW[Choi Cheolhan]
WR[9d]
PB[Chen Yaoye]
BR[9d]
RE[B+5.5]
DT[2011-08-29]
;B[pd];W[dd];B[qp];W[dq];B[co];W[oq];B[mp];W[qi];B[qk];W[qf];B[qe]
;W[pf];B[nc];W[oo];B[pn];W[kp];B[mr];W[mo];B[np];W[po];B[qo];W[qq]
;B[rq];W[pq];B[no];W[on];B[pm];W[ip];B[rr];W[om];B[lo];W[lm];B[ol]
;W[nl];B[ok];W[mn];B[kr];W[ir];B[jo];W[ko];B[kn];W[ln];B[jp];W[jq]
;B[kq];W[lp];B[lq];W[lo];B[nq];W[in];B[eo];W[cp];B[bo];W[ck];B[dp]
;W[eq];B[cq];W[cr];B[bq];W[cf];B[rf];W[rg];B[re];W[jc];B[db];W[dc]
;B[eb];W[cb];B[hc];W[fc];B[bb];W[cc];B[fb];W[gc];B[gb];W[hd];B[ic]
;W[id];B[jb];W[kb];B[ib];W[jd];B[ej];W[ja];B[ha];W[ek];B[dk];W[dj]
;B[dl];W[el];B[cl];W[cj];B[ei];W[em];B[bl];W[ch];B[gj];W[ij];B[ii]
;W[ji];B[hj];W[ih];B[hn];W[hl];B[gl];W[gm];B[hm];W[il];B[ik];W[hi]
;B[hk];W[fj];B[gn];W[gi];B[fi];W[fk];B[jl];W[im];B[fm];W[jk];B[gk]
;W[ho];B[fg];W[eg];B[fh];W[ff];B[en];W[nk];B[oi];W[rk];B[rl];W[qj]
;B[nj];W[ql];B[rm];W[pk];B[pl];W[pi];B[rh];W[md];B[nd];W[ne];B[oe]
;W[of];B[qg];W[oh];B[mb];W[lc];B[mi];W[oj];B[pj];W[or];B[nr];W[oj]
;B[nm];W[nn];B[pj];W[qh];B[sg];W[oj];B[mk];W[ml];B[pj];W[ka];B[ia]
;W[oj];B[ll];W[mm];B[pj];W[ga];B[fa];W[oj];B[kk];W[ni];B[jj];W[kj]
;B[ii];W[lj];B[jn];W[jm];B[km];W[io];B[kl];W[gp];B[mj];W[lk];B[jk]
;W[ki];B[nh];W[mg];B[oi];W[pj];B[jh];W[kh];B[jg];W[ij];B[nf];W[ng]
;B[qr];W[mh];B[me];W[gg];B[ke];W[da];B[ai];W[bi];B[br];W[ep];B[jr]
;W[iq];B[ig];W[di];B[dm];W[dr];B[ii];W[gh];B[fl];W[hf];B[ak];W[ah]
;B[os];W[ni];B[do];W[ps];B[ns];W[pr];B[pg];W[ij];B[qs];W[li];B[ii]
;W[mf];B[hh];W[ne];B[ec];W[ed];B[nf];W[sl];B[rn];W[ne];B[is];W[hs]
;B[nf];W[og];B[js];W[gr];B[eh];W[dh];B[ne];W[aj];B[bk];W[hg];B[if]
;W[ih];B[ef];W[dg];B[fe];W[gf];B[he];W[ge];B[ie];W[ij];B[hr];W[hq]
;B[ii];W[ek];B[fj];W[ij];B[kd];W[kc];B[ii];W[gd];B[hh];W[bs];B[ih]
;W[ar];B[aq];W[fo];B[ri];W[je];B[as];W[cs];B[sm];W[sk];B[go];W[le]
;B[kf];W[kg];B[jf];W[lf];B[fn];W[fp];B[qm];W[ld];B[ij];W[bj];B[rj]
;W[qk];B[sj];W[ma];B[na];W[la];B[ar];W[mc];B[pe];W[ph];B[rg];W[lb]
;B[nb];W[ca];B[ea];W[op];B[pp])
(;
GM[1]
FF[4]
SZ[19]
KM[7.5]
PW[Chen Yaoye]
WR[9d]
PB[Choi Cheolhan]
BR[9d]
RE[W+R]
DT[2011-08-31]
EV[15th China-Korea Tengen 2nd round]
;B[qd];W[dc];B[dp];W[pp];B[ce];W[oc];B[hc];W[cd];B[de];W[fc];B[dj]
;W[kc];B[ge];W[fq];B[dn];W[jp];B[hq];W[ho];B[eq];W[pg];B[pe];W[pj]
;B[nq];W[oq];B[np];W[pn];B[jq];W[kq];B[kp];W[iq];B[jr];W[jo];B[lq]
;W[ir];B[kr];W[cl];B[dl];W[cm];B[dm];W[cj];B[ci];W[ck];B[bi];W[bp]
;B[cp];W[bo];B[bq];W[bj];B[hr];W[jl];B[lm];W[kk];B[lk];W[lj];B[jm]
;W[im];B[kl];W[jk];B[il];W[hm];B[ik];W[mk];B[km];W[gk];B[ij];W[fm]
;B[gn];W[fn];B[go];W[gp];B[fo];W[gm];B[fp];W[hi];B[ih];W[dk];B[ek]
;W[ej];B[fj];W[di];B[fk];W[gj];B[fi];W[gi];B[if];W[gg];B[ed];W[ii]
;B[kj];W[ll];B[jj];W[lk];B[kh];W[jh];B[kg];W[mn];B[mm];W[ln];B[nl]
;W[nm];B[ml];W[nk];B[nn];W[om];B[ol];W[pl];B[kn];W[ko];B[lo];W[mo]
;B[mp];W[lp];B[ok];W[oj];B[lo];W[eo];B[pk];W[qk];B[no];W[ep];B[fr]
;W[hn];B[cn];W[bn];B[ql];W[rl];B[pm];W[qm];B[on];W[er];B[qj];W[rk]
;B[dq];W[gr];B[dr];W[fs];B[dh];W[qi];B[qn];W[rm];B[po];W[qp];B[mc]
;W[nd];B[ld];W[qb];B[qg];W[pf];B[qf];W[oe];B[rb];W[mb];B[nb];W[ob]
;B[lb];W[rc];B[ec];W[eb];B[bd];W[eh];B[ei];W[bc];B[cb];W[db];B[cc]
;W[dd];B[bb];W[ee];B[ef];W[fe];B[ff];W[fd];B[fh];W[gb];B[qc];W[ra]
;B[ph];W[ng];B[ro];W[sb];B[rp];W[mh];B[aj];W[ak];B[ai];W[dj];B[cg]
;W[am];B[hb];W[le];B[kd];W[ke];B[ji];W[je];B[jd];W[ie];B[gh];W[rn]
;B[qo];W[hh];B[ig];W[li];B[hg];W[he];B[hf];W[gd];B[gf];W[md];B[jc]
;W[nc];B[ma];W[is];B[br];W[ha];B[ia];W[ga];B[lg];W[mg];B[lf];W[mf]
;B[js];W[io])
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:08 am
by pancake
Black 103 is amazing. What happens if white plays hane on top tho? Is it possible for white to trade the bottom for the center? Can I somehow take the SGF's from here, put some variations in and upload them with the variations?
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:41 pm
by pancake
Thanks Helel. Really nice commentary
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:47 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
pancake wrote:...Can I somehow take the SGF's from here, put some variations in and upload them with the variations?
Yes.
1) Click on 'download sgf' in the lower right corner of the above diagram, and save on your PC.
2) Upload it to eidogo.com.
3) Make your changes.
4) Save the SGF with changes on their server. ( you may have to scroll down to see this option )
5) Download it and save on your PC.
6) Post the file on L19 between 'sgf-full' tags.
( Eidogo is one of many options for a SGF editor. There are also SGF editors that you can run on your own PC, but I'm not familiar with them. )
If any of the above doesn't make sense, please feel free to ask questions.
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:07 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
@Pancake: Have a look at Araban's post to see how SGFs are posted. Note that he uses just the 'sgf' tags. This results in a diagram that is too tall for some people's screens. I recommend the 'sgf-full' tags.
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:07 pm
by xed_over
Joaz Banbeck wrote:@Pancake: Have a look at Araban's post to see how SGFs are posted. Note that he uses just the 'sgf' tags. This results in a diagram that is too tall for some people's screens. I recommend the 'sgf-full' tags.
too tall?!? they're the same height.
Re: Korea-China TenGen (Choe Chulhan vs Chen Yaoe)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:18 pm
by hyperpape
They're the same height, but you lose less with sgf-full. The bottom of the diagram is the game tree and game info. If you use regular sgf, you lose the controls.