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#147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:34 am
by 1986
Good Game Marcus
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I know everybody is thinking about the six stone differences in our ranks & playing only with a 2 stone handicap, so I will explain.
Marcus let me pick the rules so I picked 2 stone handicap
Proper handicap at six stones is way too many IMO,
Especially for maklovitch when you have all day to think about the moves
I was going to pick 3 stones to even it out, but I have a lot 3 stone strategies and I wanted something more of a challenge, so two stones it is.
I’m motivated to play at my best with two stones. Besides I have all the time in the world to find the best move so it should be a good game!
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:49 am
by Marcus
Good luck to you!
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:30 am
by EdLee
Good game to both (and almost happy new year!)
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:32 pm
by 1986
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this should be a good game for the both of us!
I will take my time in the opening and play proper (building strong groups) globally (making sure the groups work together whole board) & just focusing on staying ahead in points. staying ahead is the key to handicap go, and even more important in handicap go is the handicap stones are used for attacking (profitable attacks)
lets see how the next few moves go. its a little early to talk about attacking right now
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:23 pm
by Sur
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:44 pm
by Marcus
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Ah, another Malkovich game. Those who have seen my previous Malkovich games, or maybe have caught my games on DGS or KGS may note that I have a particularly ... inelegant style. This could get very, very messy eventually.
I have a tendency to play very lax moves in handicap games. Let's try not doing that this game. Yeah, that sounds like a good plan.
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:10 pm
by speedchase
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:56 am
by 1986
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i really want to approach his top left corner, but i must play solid and respond to his apporach. i didn't pincer because i didn't want a double enclosure on my right side so the large knights move is a good response.
i already know he is going to apprach my bottom left corner with f3 so i might pincer thats stone instead.
i must take my time and play solid the opening is the most important part of the game
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:50 pm
by Marcus
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Large Knight, eh? Alright, let's leave that corner for now.
Too bad he did not pincer, I wanted to do this:
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:27 am
by 1986
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wow i like that change up i was expecting f3 but now i get to extend along the bottom yay!.
hmm maybe he will extend on the bottom because o3 looks lonely now.
but if i were him i would secure a base for the c6 stone.
i still haven't had time to tenuki yet; but when i do i was thinking of appraching the top left unless its something urgent pops up.
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:38 pm
by Aphelion
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:50 pm
by Loons
Looking at the position as white, I am torn between:
Continuing joseki at 'a', which involves both played approaches; further, the joseki lines are infamously easy for black to slip up on in handicap games.
And approaching 'b'. Neither of the played approaches seem very short on options for settling locally (can take all/part of a corner with x or y, or jump back like z/m).
I feel like this would be a better use of white's moyo potential on the left than to play directly at 'm'; threaten a moyo across both top and left instead.
I would probably approach 'b'. It feels more active to me.
$$Bcm4 Prisoners:
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 7:57 pm
by Marcus
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:27 pm
by 1986
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now it looks like the board is divided, white left/ black right. but as long as my stones are stronger than his i have no problem.
so far every section is black 2 to white 1.
there is no way for marcus to defend all these stones & they look so lonely.
the left side is kinda sketched out for him but its still wide open, in due time i will get to that side but so far i have not had sente yet.
(note to self when playing white in handi keep sente)
all i have to do is win by one point, so i can continue playing like its a regular even game.
so slow and steady, move by move, im playing as solid as possible, and when the time is right attack.
well its tsumego time for me
Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:24 pm
by illluck
