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Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:03 pm
by Numsgil
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Here's my nigiri:
Good luck!
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:39 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
Joaz says: Don't run.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:48 pm
by tj86430
This should be interesting. I don't know if it will be more interesting than Magicwand's games, but interesting nevertheless.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:00 pm
by EdLee
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:15 am
by shapenaji
I guessed even, so you can start us off. Have a good game!
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:21 am
by shapenaji
As an interesting side note, I think komi is probably less than 6.5, most territories will likely be considerably smaller here, so the absolute score will likely be lower. That being the case, proper komi is probably only like 3.5, but it shouldn't make a huge difference in this game.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:23 pm
by Numsgil
Hehe, I don't think the game will be decided by komi anyway (because I will crush you!
)
...
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As I said in
my other game , I think any corner move is probably fine on a board like this.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:12 pm
by shapenaji
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:28 pm
by Numsgil
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:00 pm
by perceval
i hava a dilemma... i really want to read the hidden, but the general considerations on the board shape would be an help for my own game, and numsgil cant read either hidden .. so i ll refrain from reading the hidden in this thread. After all, it is not unthinkable that the mere 12 stones or so of rank difference between shape and myself might,maybe, allow him to make slightly more informed deductions on the effect of the board shape on the game. on the othe hand not following this thread at all would be hard.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:20 pm
by shapenaji
Triggered and follow-up
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It's actually almost easier to live here, which is why I don't value thickness as much, usually, you make a weak group and they can chase it and build something, in this case, they can't. Then you might ask "Well, yeah, but you've got nowhere to go, don't you just die?
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:45 pm
by Numsgil
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I suspect he and I have very different ideas about how to play on this board
This is the perfect distance from the 4-4 thickness (remember that the star stones aren't in the same place relative to the corners on this board, since the base board size is 21x21). Combine that with a good approach to his latest move, and I don't mind playing this at all.
I'm not as sure about my corner placement in the new corner, but I think it's the best of the few other choices. The top is blighted so I don't mind being low facing that direction. The right side is still open, so I'd like to be high in that direction. So 3-4 seems reasonable.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:48 pm
by daniel_the_smith
IMO,
is overconcentrated.
Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:50 pm
by shapenaji
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Time to test my hypothesis, I want him to jump in and start fighting here, I've already said I don't like the 4x4, playing at "a" invites "b" which would settle things too nicely, expecting a pincer at "c" and then I'll do my tesuji-ninja thing
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Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:35 pm
by speedchase
daniel_the_smith wrote: IMO,
is overconcentrated.
in a normal game, definitely, here it is so much easier to live anywhere, that making moves that would be normal in a regular game would be too small here
)
is overconcentrated.