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German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:09 am
by RobertJasiek
Besides the four prequalified players Dickhut, Teuber, Obenaus and Radmacher, the four top players of the preliminaries qualify:

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Deutsche Meisterschaft 2012, Vorrunde - After Round 6
Place   Name       Club   Level Rating Score  1   2   3   4   5   6 Points SOS SOSOS
1  Jasiek, Robert  Berl	5 Dan	2443	26½  8+  3+  7+  2=  4+  6+  5½ 147½ 869
2  Tarumi, Jun     Münc	5 Dan	2525	26½ 10+  6+  9+  1=  3+  5+  5½ 145½ 868
3  Welticke, Jonas Bonn	4 Dan	2321   25   5+  1- 12+  7+  2-  4+  4  146  870½
4  Liebscher, V.   Grei	3 Dan	2303	24   9+  7-  5+  6+  1-  3-  3  146½ 869
5  Terwey, M.      Müns	4 Dan	2461	24   3-  8+  4-  9+ 10+  2-  3  145½ 866½
6  Liu Yang        Hamb	4 Dan	2336	24  12+  2- 10+  4- 11+  1-  3  144  863
7  Ongaro, David   Hamb	3 Dan	2374	24  11+  4+  1-  3-  8- 12+  3  143½ 864½
8  Landgraf, Marc  Dres	4 Dan	2315	24   1-  5- 11+ 10-  7+  9+  3  143½ 860½
9  Budahn, Michael Berl	4 Dan	2386	23   4- 11+  2-  5- 12+  8-  2  142½ 862
10 Ente, Lisa      Hann	3 Dan	2327	23   2- 12+  6-  8+  5- 11-  2  142½ 859½
11 Kettenring, Th. Münc	3 Dan	2294	23   7-  9-  8- 12+  6- 10+  2  139  858
12 Freilos(BYE)    Hamb	2 Dan	2100	21   6- 10-  3- 11-  9-  7-  0  142  857½
As usual, SOS creates meaningless results, in particular for places 1 and the place 4 qualification separation. Place 1: Despite cross-pairing in rounds 1 and 2, the first two rounds' SOS contribution of the opponents of players 1 and 2 was worse than lottery. Place 4: The places 4 to 8 sorting was not by skill but by the pairing luck's effect on SOS. With 7 new of 11 participants in comparison to 2011 German Championship preliminaries and finals, the tournament's pairing system has no chance to distinguish SOS from lottery even marginally. A bomb alarm in my train leading to its delay could have had a greater impact easily, but I just barely arrived on time for round 1:) At least the points criterion expresses fairly what has happened in the games, i.e. the two 5d players deserve their final places. Contrarily, the ratings are not reflected so well.

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:25 am
by karaklis
Congratulations to our youngster Jonas. I'll be rooting for him in the German championship.

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:37 am
by tapir
Congratulations.

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I am happy to see that you're sticking to your opinion although SOS awarded you the first place here. But when the 4th player get the qualification with only 3 wins out of 6, he should feel lucky regardless of the tie breaker used.

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:54 am
by quantumf
Players 1 & 2 had a draw in round 4? That's pretty unusual.

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:12 am
by RobertJasiek
The game felt like a draw during opening and middle game, we played equally strongly, did not believe the opponent's forcing moves or let get away with extra-sharp moves and so naturally the endgame byoyomi mistakes cancelled each other:)

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:03 am
by karaklis
For those who are interested: This is the jigo match between Robert Jasiek and Jun Tarumi:


Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:28 pm
by xed_over
wait... so if you're using tie-break methods in the tournament, then why allow even komi in the games?

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:41 pm
by ez4u
Congratulations Robert!

Re: German Championship Preliminaries

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:21 am
by RobertJasiek
xed_over wrote:if you're using tie-break methods in the tournament, then why allow even komi in the games?
Are you asking for the reason of integer komi in that tournament? The idea by its proponents was a greater likelihood of an on average finer number of wins placement criterion so that tiebreakers would be needed less frequently. Of course, this idea overlooks the possibility of a jigo creating a tie on the number of wins:)