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Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:37 am
by SuprunP
Toshiro Kageyama in his book "Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go" presents us with some life-and-death problems. Here is one of them with mine and Kageyama's solutions. Does mine work?
Thanks.
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:47 am
by Li Kao
White has a stronger move for 4, so your attempt fails.
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:55 am
by SuprunP
Li Kao wrote:White has a stronger move for 4, so your attempt fails.
Do you by any chance mean S19?
Thanks.
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:01 am
by Li Kao
S19 Q18 P18
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:34 am
by Txewì
Here's how it plays out in full. B can slice off a few stones but W lives.
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:40 am
by Li Kao
Txewì, you're wrong.
In your second sequence w6 lives, but loses points compared to p8.
And your claim that w is alive after the third sequence is plain wrong.
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I think Suprun's b1 ends in ko.
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:46 am
by blade90
@Txewì: In you first sequence

is gote (white can live without answering). Locally White connects with

to save 3 stones but it is not needed.
Re: Black to kill (T. Kageyama)
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:49 pm
by xed_over
Txewì, you're wrong.
don't be so hard on Txewì... the whole point is that SuprunP's "solution" doesn't work (for various reasons).