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Tsumego in Professional Games

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:59 pm
by masek
Recent Game Kim Jiseok (black) (7d) vs Lee Sedol (9d) w+r
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Final position interesting life and death problem

Re: Tsumego in Professional Games

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:21 pm
by blackcat
Hmm.. difficult.
Black M4 seems to kill, and the only cases it won't will be if white can kill some black stones afterwards(probably the black corner, or s6), or do something around p8.
My initial guess was there must be something in the corner, but as I don't see a way to continue after white o1 or n1, I'm now assuming there must be something around p8, possibly in conjunction with r10 or something. But still unclear to me.

Thanks in advance to any strong players who can clear this up.

Re: Tsumego in Professional Games

Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:09 pm
by hiyayang
Black M4, White P2. White T6 is sente, so Black T3 is not.

Re: Tsumego in Professional Games

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 1:10 am
by HermanHiddema
You should perhaps remove the stone at Q5 from the diagram, it confused me for a second there into thinking T4 would be atari.

EDIT: Oh, and same for S14-S15. It's confusing to have stones without liberties on the board like that :)

Re: Tsumego in Professional Games

Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 1:34 am
by blackcat
Oh, right, there was p2.. :roll:
Thanks for the explanation!

Re: Tsumego in Professional Games

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:53 am
by blue88
Fits the topic pretty well:

http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collect ... p?id=23718
Lee Sedol 9p vs An Sungjoon 2p

Move 25 seems to be a genius's Tesuji.
I wonder if White r17 was a mistake, does White have a stronger resistance?