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Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:58 pm
by Dokuganryu
Well, I recently keep finding myself on multiple webpages/webstores that provide us with go books. As a mere kgs 3-4 kyu player I already built a what most probably is quite a huge collection of books... And I keep looking for more books.

I just wanted to order Lee Chang Ho tesuji and life and death sets from Yellow Import page, but the paying something like 140$ for it (including shipping). I guess it still isn't that expensive, because each book is 250 pages long, so something like 12$ per book is quite cheap.

But I already have following problem books:
1001 Life and Death Problems (mastering the basics series)
501 Tesuji Problems (mastering the basics series)
Get Strong at Tesuji
Get Strong at Life and Death
Art of Capturing Stones (ordered from Yutopian and waiting for its arrival)
Rescue and Capture (same state as Art of Capturing Stones)
A small tsumego book in Polish language by Akinobu Tozawa for 6-8 kyu players
Printed versions of Elementary and Intermediate Cho Chikun problems without answers provided by Tasuki on his website.

Other problem books I have are:
Get Strong at the Opening
Get Strong at Invading
Making Good Shape
Attacking and Defending Moyos
All About Ko

The truth is I only solved Get strong at Tesuji, 1001 life and death problems, elementary Cho Chikun problems and the small Polish tsumego book once till now, and haven't started any of the other books I mentioned. I also have as many or more theory go books to read. :shock:

Buying Lee Chang Ho 12 problem books would multiple the amount of material I could work with, and sounds exciting, but also somehow wrong...

I am almost sure that something must be wrong with my approach to this, I guess that solving problems from books I already have once will take me much time and yield a significant boost to my playing abilities, so what's the point of buying more of them, besides the ill urge to hoard stuff..

What do You think about this situation, and how do You deal/would deal with it? :scratch: What is Your bookoholism story? :ugeek:

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:27 pm
by CnP
:D Well I'm a weaker player and I've got lots. I think there are optimum books for a persons level at any particular time - so I don't see why not buy them all! I've got most of the English language problem books and quite a few chinese/Japanese ones. Ordering the Maeda set and the "the book to increase your fighting strength at Go" http://senseis.xmp.net/?TheBookToIncreaseYourFightingStrengthAtGo from Amazon.jp is probably one of the worse examples of how far I'll go to get my fix. Spending about 10 hours figuring out how to order books through dangdang (which no longer works) is another.... that said I do think you have to commit to a book properly to get the benefit from it (which I'm only just learning).

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:30 pm
by BaghwanB
Personally, I read to much and don't play enough to keep advancing at a steady pace. So my self diagnosis is to play more if possible and focus more on problems (tesuji, L&D, etc.) that might have more practical applications in my limited actual play time. Also 9x9 against computers to at least do some actual playing that might help my real game.

If I truly understood 1/3 of the books I have I'd be at least 5 stones stronger.

Bruce "Bookie" Young

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:40 pm
by Bartleby
Gorim, you are a pretty mild case.

I own close to a thousand Go books, and the vast majority of them are tsumego/problem collections. I could spend the rest of my life solving tsumego and not make it through them.

And there are members of this forum whose collections dwarf mine. I guess the best thing you can say about this kind of thing is that there are worse habits than collecting books.

Anyway you are doing your bit to encourage Go authors without overdoing it, so you should pat yourself on the back.

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:43 pm
by tchan001
You can look at a part of my humble collection of go books by visiting my blog ;)
If I know 1% of the material I own, I'd be a wee bit stronger :)


CnP wrote:Spending about 10 hours figuring out how to order books through dangdang (which no longer works) is another....

http://tchan001.wordpress.com/chinese-g ... -go-books/

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:03 pm
by Boidhre
I get told to hold off buying more books as a measly ddk. :D

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:08 pm
by chiwito
I have to admit that as a book collector I am a bit baffled by this thread. Why would one Only buy books one intended to [or was able to] read?

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:56 pm
by Dokuganryu
Oh men, only words of encouragment to buy more, should know it comming :mrgreen: I always thought that I buy a book to have it and to read it, but if I keep my pace I most probably will have to shift to the "have" part of the idea :geek: Congrats on Your great collections gentelment, as a bookoholism padawan I have much to learn from You ;-)

PS: these Segoe Kensaku problem books looks very interesting! :mrgreen:

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:33 am
by tchan001
Well, it gets really bookoholic when you start collecting historical go documents such as this.
http://tchan001.wordpress.com/2011/08/0 ... ihon-kiin/

I recently acquired something even more amazing but I'll save it for a later go sighting post. hehe.

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:31 am
by Dokuganryu
For now I am safe from such ideas, buying from China/Japan is to hard and expensive for now. But should I make a trip to these countries I will surely return with nothing but underware and go stuff in my luggage :rambo:

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:45 am
by oren
Until your list is a few pages and well past your time to read, you have no problem.

I have a slight case of bookoholism. It's gotten better lately. :)

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:47 pm
by markeemark
I am way down the ranking of you folks an unimpressive 21 Kyu on KGS (only been playing properly around 4 weeks). I have about 10 15 books and 5 more on there way (three from the USA and two from Holland). It's a small collection but growing.

As my background was in chess, (how I wished I kept that Library!) buying books and using them was an integral part of developing.

I think as has been mentioned that there are many worse things than collecting books.

Whilst some (most) may be outside my level at the moment, I am looking at what might be the longer term benefits of my investment.

If I become stronger all the better, if I don't then I will at least have a Go education (and having done my bit for the community)!

Yilun Yang is my favourite author I like his clear style.

Kageyama is one of my favourite book (although it may need many more re-reads to has his ideas sink in).

Regards

Mark

1000 books! I never knew there was that many. Who do people think are the most reliable suppliers of Go books?

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:12 pm
by oren
markeemark wrote:1000 books! I never knew there was that many. Who do people think are the most reliable suppliers of Go books?


There are a lot more than 1000 if you count everything available in Chinese, Korean, and Japanese.

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:15 am
by kirkmc
I'm a bookaholic too. However, having more or less stopped playing go, and realizing that these books weren't helping me get better, I decided to sell off most of my collection. (You can see what's left in a thread in the Trading Post forum.) I did keep a core set of books, though, if I decide to come back to the game. I've taken breaks of several years in the past, so it's likely I will play again.

But, yea, why not buy books? They only cost money and take up a lot of space. And tchan001 can certainly attest to that!

Re: Bookoholism

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:27 am
by Kirby
There is a Korean phrase that says something along the lines of, "A bad student carries a lot of books."

The idea is that having a lot of books in itself doesn't make for a good student. You can learn a lot from just a single book, sometimes.

That being said, I "carry a lot of books"...