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Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:54 am
by NoSkill
I played black, misread in fuseki:


Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:07 am
by NoSkill
How do i get the sgf to work if i saved it from kgs?

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:13 am
by Splatted
Edit: No longer relevant.

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:18 am
by Splatted
I'm guessing you missed steps 2+3

1)Upload the attachment
2)Preview post
3)Right click the attachment that appears in the previewed post and select "copy link location"
4)paste between SGF tags.

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:28 am
by NoSkill
Splatted wrote:I'm guessing you missed steps 2+3

1)Upload the attachment
2)Preview post
3)Right click the attachment that appears in the previewed post and select "copy link location"
4)paste between SGF tags.
Yes, I misunderstood. Thanks :D

First post is fixed

Also: I put in some comments to let you see some of my thinking... I think he just underestimated my reading due to the opening and got unfocused... the aji he had was more than he thought. That is probably why he gave up so easily

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:30 pm
by NoSkill
48 downloads and noone has any comments :(?

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:45 pm
by Magicwand
NoSkill wrote:48 downloads and noone has any comments :(?
15: mistake?? probably yes. Q2 looks better on my eye.
25: <----this is what you need. Mistake! simple joseki dictionary will be help you find what you did wrong.

Korean saying: if you can not understand...then memorize!!!

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:19 pm
by SoDesuNe
Just the opening.

:b9: : Why not simply Q3?
:b15: : I don't like Q2. I think White can easily settle his pressured stones on the right with S5 then. I would have played your move, too.
:b21: : Is this move even Joseki? According to dailyjoseki.com this move is rarely played and White most commonly replies with C15, getting a large corner. Do you wanted to make a Moyo on the top? Don't know if this works well here.

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:23 pm
by mitsun
:b25: is a mistake. As MW suggests, consult a joseki book for possible continuations.
:b29: is necessary, even if you later have to give up some stones.
:b35: is a fatal mistake, trying to save everything, which is impossible.
After W captures the center cutting stones, the game is over, time to resign.

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:26 pm
by NoSkill
mitsun wrote::b25: is a mistake. As MW suggests, consult a joseki book for possible continuations.
:b29: is necessary, even if you later have to give up some stones.
:b35: is a fatal mistake, trying to save everything, which is impossible.
After W captures the center cutting stones, the game is over, time to resign.
There are no joseki references to consult, and i dont know any other better joseki choice.

35 is a mistake, yes. What is better?

And even if im behind, i wouldnt give up yet. Im better at mid game fighting and usually start off from these kind of big disadvantages

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:31 pm
by Magicwand
NoSkill wrote: There are no joseki references to consult, and i dont know any other better joseki choice.
http://www.dailyjoseki.com/
NoSkill wrote:35 is a mistake, yes. What is better?
forget :b35:
:b25: is wrong.
NoSkill wrote:And even if im behind, i wouldnt give up yet. Im better at mid game fighting and usually start off from these kind of big disadvantages
no you are not better at mid game fighting.

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:39 pm
by emeraldemon
I'm also wondering about :b21: . Is there a reason not to play the attach inside or the diagonal jump?

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:59 pm
by NoSkill
Magicwand wrote:
NoSkill wrote: There are no joseki references to consult, and i dont know any other better joseki choice.
http://www.dailyjoseki.com/
NoSkill wrote:35 is a mistake, yes. What is better?
forget :b35:
:b25: is wrong.
NoSkill wrote:And even if im behind, i wouldnt give up yet. Im better at mid game fighting and usually start off from these kind of big disadvantages
no you are not better at mid game fighting.

Hmm right, i know im behind by like 50 but there is always the chance. As the koreans do it, when behind try a fight and if it doesnt work then resign. Alot of times they are behind by like 10 when they do a last ditch fight though..

I really lucked out in this game, but I wonder if anything is wrong with my reading at the end? Can anyone comment on that part as well?

Also thanks for the joseki source

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:00 pm
by NoSkill
emeraldemon wrote:I'm also wondering about :b21: . Is there a reason not to play the attach inside or the diagonal jump?
I was trying to get a joseki to work with the top right..

and i think diving into the corner isnt joseki

Re: Game with a 1D (bad fuseki)

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:09 pm
by NoSkill
Anyone know if there is a better joskei choice than 21 that utilizes the top right?