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Putting a game up for review puts you in no obligation to review it, so this is needlessly catty. I'm not even the OP, but this sort of comment is a net negative on the civility of this forum.Uberdude wrote:Why should I put more effort into thinking about your game than you can be bothered to?
. I think that given the huge amount of support that Uberdude gives to players who ask for help, in reviews and otherwise, he could post compromising photos of your mother and still be a net positive to the civility of this forum.Redundant wrote:Putting a game up for review puts you in no obligation to review it, so this is needlessly catty. I'm not even the OP, but this sort of comment is a net negative on the civility of this forum.Uberdude wrote:Why should I put more effort into thinking about your game than you can be bothered to?
cyclops wrote:You like your position after your w30? 10 stones taking some third line territory on the upperside, 4 stones in the bottom left radiating influence towards black strength. Compare this with the superior shape of b's stones. So yeah, P5 was premature. But to be honest I doubt the whole w strategy allowing b lines along top and the right.
Black seems to me a quite strong player but he could have ended the game at 121@O5 ( if my reading is correct ). Though I agree with Redundant I also agree with Uberdude that spending some time to think won't harm. Just imagine him thinking about his next move in his Malkovitsch game against Magicwand if you need some inspiration.
Thanks for the tips ^^. The moves around 45 or so where i split the weak group off is something i noticed in the review from the 4D, very obvious mistake by meBill Spight wrote:A few comments.
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That's no excuse to be antagonistic to someone posting for help. He could have just said politely that Noskill should take longer, but instead posted what he did. There's no excuse to be rude. Ever. This forum has a disturbing habit of allowing its celebrities to get away with being downright rude at times, but that's another topic.jts wrote:I think that given the huge amount of support that Uberdude gives to players who ask for help, in reviews and otherwise, he could post compromising photos of your mother and still be a net positive to the civility of this forum.
I agree with this statement. I would have no problem with uberdude still if he would admit he messes up but several times he has posted things basically saying he wasnt going to help in threads ive made. I could take longer and fix some mistakes yes, but there is a benefit to seeing mistkaes you only make in blitz. It means those mistakes are wrong instinccts, and something is a common mistake in all your games.Redundant wrote:That's no excuse to be antagonistic to someone posting for help. He could have just said politely that Noskill should take longer, but instead posted what he did. There's no excuse to be rude. Ever. This forum has a disturbing habit of allowing its celebrities to get away with being downright rude at times, but that's another topic.jts wrote:I think that given the huge amount of support that Uberdude gives to players who ask for help, in reviews and otherwise, he could post compromising photos of your mother and still be a net positive to the civility of this forum.
I don't hide that I am 7 kyu. So feel free to skip or ignore my comments or indicate you don't want them from the beginning.NoSkill wrote: ....... Please dont try to review a game of someone 5 stones stronger than you
I understand you are 7k and normally wouldnt mind anyone trying to help and would be kind but your first comment was a bit rude, sorry for being a bit mean on that point.cyclops wrote:I don't hide that I am 7 kyu. So feel free to skip or ignore my comments or indicate you don't want them from the beginning.NoSkill wrote: ....... Please dont try to review a game of someone 5 stones stronger than you
I didn't see you were 1 dan. It was not in the game information and you are not known at KGS.
I should have stayed out of that time discussion. Sorry for that.
But I really don't like your position after w30. After reading Spight's comments I understood better what caused it's inferiority. Though 20 and 22 seemed suspicious to me as did the joseki in the upperright.
Even if I didn't find the killing move in the bottom right it is obvious your invasion at the right is an uphill fight probably chosen because you felt behind. But, sure, my insights are of doubtfull value. Better so?
I agree with this too.Redundant wrote:That's no excuse to be antagonistic to someone posting for help. He could have just said politely that Noskill should take longer, but instead posted what he did. There's no excuse to be rude. Ever.jts wrote:I think that given the huge amount of support that Uberdude gives to players who ask for help, in reviews and otherwise, he could post compromising photos of your mother and still be a net positive to the civility of this forum.
I don't expect the fact I make lots of positive contributions to mean I get preferential treatment if I am rude. Anyone should be able to make frank rhetorical points without causing a super-storm in a teacup. Maybe I was expecting people to have thicker skins.When I review games, particularly the opening, I will often do a pattern search of the shapes to find similar pro games in GoGoD to give higher quality comments that are informed by professional play.NoSkill wrote: A 4D can probably review my game in 10 minutes including DL and UL... so I also don't see why uberdude says "take the time to review your game" when it won't hardly take anytime.
But this I disagree with. And 497 posts and 254 likes suggests much of L19 disagrees with you.NoSkill wrote: Uberdude is annoying to me and im going to censor him as all he does is talk big and be useless.
Really? I wasn't aware of that any prior friction between us so looked up our last few interactions:NoSkill wrote: I would have no problem with uberdude still if he would admit he messes up but several times he has posted things basically saying he wasnt going to help in threads ive made.
Was that useless? I thought it could give you a new way of thinking about the opening which could help you. At least some other people liked it.Uberdude wrote:Just attach at c17 and play a normal joseki. Your question seems to imply that you want to make a moyo on the top side to use your top right shimari. But that's not the only way to use those stones. Another is to simply share the top left corner with white, preventing him from getting lots of territory there (and of course separate the pincer stone from the corner because Go is all about separating/connecting). If white ends up developing along the top side, that's nothing to be sad about: your strong shimari means he can't make much territory there. You need to be more flexible and let the game develop naturally, if you single-purposefully go after one thing, a skilled opponent can take advantage of that and force you to overcommit to your plan (e.g. forcing overconcentration).NoSkill wrote:Anyone know if there is a better joskei choice than 21 that utilizes the top right?
Maybe this the offending post? Ok, I didn't give you a game review, but after ez4u explained a mistake in joseki I linked to a thread collecting errors in Kogo's Joseki Dictionary as a warning that one should not blindly believe Kogo's/Eidogo. Useless?Uberdude wrote:Another entry for http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... =15&t=6571 then.NoSkill wrote: Interesing. What was played in game is taught as the only route for joseki, as seen on eidogo.com . I don't know what to think about the alternatives
That doesn't sound like a response to a useless post.NoSkill wrote:Oh really? I need to look over that book alot moreUberdude wrote:It's not the most up-to-date (about 10 years old) but this Korean style fuseki book has a chapter on exactly that approach probe you asked about. Also I (and more importantly the many pros who have played it) disagree with rlaalwso thatis questionable. Certainly the shape he shows is the latest fashion, but I'm not aware (please explain the new judgement if I am wrong) that the outside approach is considered inferior.
There is also Takao's newer joseki dictionary, but that's just joseki not fuseki. I really like that Korean fuseki book and credit it with a large part of my fuseki understanding. I think it would be a good fit for the self-professed gaps in NoSkill's game.. I had been reading it for the sanrensei and low chinese stuff, was figuring to get to the mini-chinese, high chinese, kobyashi etc later. Didn't realize it has this in it as well, excellent.
Uberdude wrote:Simba wrote:By this, do you mean things like the expansion from a low shimari on P17/R16 to O14 you played in that game on OGSUberdude wrote:One of the specific techniques most 1 dans lack that 6 dans have is playing a type of moyo expansion/solidification move that prevents a reduction. They are often large knight moves towards the centre. Some Korean player said mastering this idea was mainly what took him from 5 dan to 6 dan.
Ok, so my tone here could be interpreted as rather abrupt, but I honestly believe that if you are bad at opening reading opening books is useful.Uberdude wrote:There are lots of books about the opening, read them.