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Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:42 pm
by logan
It would be appreciated, thank-you. And maybe with some sophisticated layouts like these:

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Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:31 pm
by John Fairbairn
I mention this because of the typesetting process I use: LaTeX plus the igo package; see its documentation at http://ctan.open-source-solution.org/fonts/igo/igo.pdf
The first seven diagrams in the pdf file have wonky lines. I stopped reading at that point.

Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:59 pm
by quantumf
hanekomu wrote:
John Fairbairn wrote:The first seven diagrams in the pdf file have wonky lines. I stopped reading at that point.
That's too bad, but it's probably your PDF viewer. Try a different magnification. There are no wonky lines in my PDF viewer, nor in the printed versions.

I would not use it if it produced rubbish.
The diagrams are very attractive, but I too am experiencing this. I'm on Windows 7, using Adobe Acrobat reader, the desktop client and the browser plugin. I've tried at various zoom levels, including 100% or "actual size". No matter what the zoom is, at least some diagrams have "wonky" lines. Depending on the zoom, different diagrams experience the "wonky" effect.

This is at 100% zoom:
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Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:08 pm
by John Fairbairn
That's too bad, but it's probably your PDF viewer. Try a different magnification. There are no wonky lines in my PDF viewer, nor in the printed versions.
I use the Adobe viewer, which seems to be the main one most buyers would use. I tried all magnifications from 10% to 800%. The defects were there at all magnifications, but at the higher ones other defects became evident (extra lines beside stones, lines not corner butting up accurately at corners, etc).

On the iPad, using the app PDFReader, the defects are also evident.

Since I scanned the text a little on second perusal, you may wish to note the following:

"The vicinity of living stones is small." This is peculiar English to me. Maybe it means "the area near living stones is small"?

"Please appreciate Black's unwasteful shape." This is translaterese and I'm not entirely sure what the unusual word "unwasteful" means. Does it all mean "Do understand how efficient Black's shape is"?

Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:31 pm
by Harleqin
I have used a similar package for LaTeX and also had the "wonky lines" problem. I found out that it doesn't appear in print, and since my "shipping" product was print, I was okay. I had the impression that it was due to pixel rounding errors in the PDF screen display. Since it uses special fonts for display (as far as I recall), I suspect that those fonts might lack some sub-dot precision.

Nowadays, I would perhaps use some selfmade macros based on tikz.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:01 pm
by EdLee
I was just curious about the "wonky" lines. I also see them at all zoom levels.
FireFox 16.0.2, Windows Vista -- whatever the default/current PDF plugged-in viewer:
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Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:03 pm
by hyperpape
Fwiw, I did not have any problem with wonky lines, using document viewer 3.4 for Ubuntu 12.04. I hope you figure out the issues, because this is interesting.

Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:09 pm
by John Fairbairn
One thing this thread shows already is that making go diagrams is hard work. I made around 2,000 for "Shuei" :cry:

Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:09 pm
by John Fairbairn
One thing this thread shows already is that making go diagrams is hard work. I made around 2,000 for "Shuei" :cry:

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:15 pm
by EdLee
At higher zoom levels, the pixelated (not anti-aliased) stones become more apparent,
and you can still see the wonki-ness in the lines, appearing as bamboo joints (pun intended :)):
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Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:12 am
by kivi
Is there something to transform sgf diagrams to igo/latex diagrams?
Would that be useful for you? I am sceptical because producing sgf files then tweaking a scripts output to your liking could be slower than doing it directly.

Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:45 am
by hibbs
The wonky lines seem to be an issue:
I see perfect diagrams on the iPad with Safari. On Windows 7 I see wonky lines with both Foxit reader and Adobe acrobat (although the wonkiness is different, Foxit shows more of the "bamboo joints"). It also happens when printing...

Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:39 am
by kristpan
Marcel GrĂ¼nauer wrote:
logan wrote:It would be appreciated, thank-you. And maybe with some sophisticated layouts like these
Here are some sample pages; the first two are from the strategy book I mentioned; the third one is from some notes intended for beginners that I started to write.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/604862/latex-igo-sample.pdf

They use a rather simple layout.

The pages you mention all look doable in LaTeX except for maybe the fancy background images.
Hello Marcel, I can't download the file by the link you posted, could you please send me one. My email is panqihg@gmail.com. Thanks a lot!