Difficult tsume go.

drmwc · Post by **drmwc** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:54 am

This problem took me two weeks to solve when I was young. So I'll post the answer in about a fortnight's time. Black to play and kill

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speedchase · Post by **speedchase** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:13 am

Cool problem.
my attempt:

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:18 am

edit: but now i think i am wrong on my first move

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:37 am

after some thought white die no ko..
did i miss anything?

Prodigious · Post by **Prodigious** » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:47 am

Magicwand wrote:after some thought white die no ko..
did i miss anything?
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$$|.3O21.X....
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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:15 am

i spend 30 min and can not find answer to this problem.

logan · Post by **logan** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:05 am

Alguien · Post by **Alguien** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:09 am

Alguien · Post by **Alguien** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:19 am

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:20 am

Alguien wrote:
$$Bc
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$$|. . O . X . X . . . .
$$|O . . . O . X . . . .
$$|. 4 O . O . X . . . .
$$|. . X . . . X . . . .
$$|X X X X X X X . . . .
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I don't get it. Seems alive to me. I'm much too weak for this problem, though.

jts · Post by **jts** » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:20 am

Ninja'd

drmwc · Post by **drmwc** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:32 pm

The correct solution has been posted - well done!

SoDesuNe · Post by **SoDesuNe** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:53 am

Let us honour the book "Juseki Burou - Go Seigen Tsumego-shuu by Go Seigen", published by Seibundou Shinkousha, 1995 (ISBN 4-416-79510-6 C0076) for this problem and (in my case) GoGoD, where I took all the details ^^

It's a class A problem and also has a name: "THE SOUTHERN CROSS STAR - Breaking into a solid encampment".

Quite similiar to his Tesuji dictionaries Go Seigen's Tsumego-book has three categories of problems A, B and C. A are of course the hardest.

drmwc · Post by **drmwc** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:57 pm

That's interesting - I actually learned this problem from Shutai Zhang, who was British Go Champion for a number of years. He studied to be professional when he was young, and this was one of the problems he encountered in his training. (I think it was also in the British Go Journal in the early 1990s.)

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