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American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:12 pm
by hailthorn011
So, this is likely a dumb question, but does the United States have a Professional Go System? I know there are systems in Asian countries, but I've just never heard of any being here in the US. I know it's unlikely, but I am still curious.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:56 pm
by Solomon
The simple answer to that question is: No.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:00 pm
by ethanb
hailthorn011 wrote:So, this is likely a dumb question, but does the United States have a Professional Go System? I know there are systems in Asian countries, but I've just never heard of any being here in the US. I know it's unlikely, but I am still curious.


No, but there are a few expatriate Asian pros who are living in the US and teach actively.
Yilun Yang (Chinese 7p), Feng Yun (Chinese 9p), Kim Myungwan (Korean 9p), and James Kerwin (Japanese 1p).

Apologies if there are any I've forgotten in this list.

Re: American Pros

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:03 pm
by oren

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:21 pm
by Dusk Eagle
[sl=MichaelRedmond]Michael Redmond[/sl] is the only American pro. However, he is a pro with the [sl=NihonKiin]Nihon Ki-in[/sl], and he lives in Japan, not America. There are other pros who are living in America, but their pro rank is certified by an Asian Go association, and they are not naturally-born Americans. They're listed at the url oren posted.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:22 pm
by oren
James Kerwin is another pro who was an American before turning professional.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:36 pm
by Joaz Banbeck
He still is an American. :D

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:43 pm
by palapiku
No, but you could start one! Just pay people enough money for playing Go that they can make a living doing it.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:03 pm
by oren
Joaz Banbeck wrote:He still is an American. :D


True, I just don't want to say Jennie Shen, Yilun Yang, etc... are not American. :)

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:16 pm
by Dusk Eagle
double-post.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:19 pm
by Dusk Eagle
I forgot about James Kerwin, you're right. Now that I think of it, there's also Janice Kim... I don't know what I was thinking before. However, Michael Redmond is the only Westerner to ever reach 9-dan.

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:39 pm
by gowan
I don't know what you mean by "American". It's not so simple to define. Feng Yun was born in China but is an American citizen. If you have to be born in the USA to parents who are citizens then only Redmond, Kerwin and Kim would qualify. But the USA is ultimately a nation of immigrants so ...

Re: American Pro's

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:00 pm
by ethanb
palapiku wrote:No, but you could start one! Just pay people enough money for playing Go that they can make a living doing it.


Man, if I had $100,000,000 to spare...

(Maybe that estimate's on the high side, but then again maybe not - you have to guarantee stipends for your pros for a couple of years in advance to be comfortable having people depend on you as a source of income, and then spend money money money on popularizing Go in the U.S. to the point where revenue from sponsorship deals, teaching games, etc. balances outlay for salaries, tournament prizes, and marketing.)