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Post #1 Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:56 pm 
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It's a free ebook here: http://users.eniinternet.com/bradleym/I ... Index.html

Has anyone read this book? What are your thoughts on it? I've started the first chapter and find some of the problems in the first chapter challenging, although I got most of them right.


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Post #2 Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:44 pm 
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I've never heard of it before. The Sensei's article is still pretty sparse.

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Post #3 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:06 pm 
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I recreated this book in epub format so we can read it offline and on mobile phones. Enjoy!


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Post #4 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:33 pm 
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This is arguably the best book ever written about go, for just one thing, which it highlights in section 1 chapter 1: Go is a fighting game. It seems like a meaningless truism, but so many players don't fully grasp how significant and critical this is. It's the crux of the game. When we first hear about the game, we are told that its a game about claiming and walling off territory, and we have completely the wrong idea of the game.

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Post #5 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:37 pm 
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Ca. 70% of professional middle game positions are fighting positions. I have not checked the frequency in amateur games, but guess it must be similar. Therefore, fighting belongs to the most important aspects.

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Post #6 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:59 pm 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Ca. 70% of professional middle game positions are fighting positions. I have not checked the frequency in amateur games, but guess it must be similar. Therefore, fighting belongs to the most important aspects.


Hmm... what is a 'fighting' middle game position vs. a 'non-fighting' one?

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:35 pm 
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Bantari wrote:
what is a 'fighting' middle game position vs. a 'non-fighting' one?


"A _fight_ is the combination of a contested part of the board, which can, but need not, contain unsettled groups, and the related moves". [9]

So, a fighting position is a position with at least one fight. A non-fighting position is a position without any fight.

Now, that was easy:)

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:47 pm 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
Bantari wrote:
what is a 'fighting' middle game position vs. a 'non-fighting' one?


"A _fight_ is the combination of a contested part of the board, which can, but need not, contain unsettled groups, and the related moves". [9]

So, a fighting position is a position with at least one fight. A non-fighting position is a position without any fight.

Now, that was easy:)


Nice. ;)

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Not to start another discussion with you, seems you have enough of that at the moment, but...
Doesn't every middle-game has contested parts of the board? And related moves, sooner or later? I mean - when it does not, isn't it called endgame then?

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:21 pm 
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Everybody constructs his own formations (territories, moyos etc.) peacefully in a non-fighting position. Similar to the endgame indeed.

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Post #10 Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:12 am 
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Anyone know how to stop the text from turning red every time it gets moused over?

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Post #11 Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:01 am 
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Use some kind of script blocker. (E.g. NoScript)

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Post #12 Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:01 am 
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I converted Bradley's book into pdfs a while back because I likewise thought the presentation with the changing colours is not ideal. I never read it though but it sounds interesting.

The pdfs are in horizontal format because it was easier this way to fit in all the diagrammes.


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Post #13 Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:08 am 
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daal wrote:
Anyone know how to stop the text from turning red every time it gets moused over?
Not with the ePub. And yeah, terrible web design.

But I’m in the process of creating PDFs (and eventually combining them into one PDF file) from the pages to be found here, and in the resulting PDFs this is gone. The simple chapter pages are easy, but the problem and solution pages are a PITA and I’ll have to edit the files to prevent eye bleeding.

Greetings, Tom

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While I had the edit window open for over an hour, you wrote:
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I converted Bradley's book into pdfs a while back because I likewise thought the presentation with the changing colours is not ideal. I never read it though but it sounds interesting.

The pdfs are in horizontal format because it was easier this way to fit in all the diagrammes.
Oh, cool

The ones I’m creating are in portrait format which I prefer, but I see the problem you mention with those diagrams. I think I’d like to typeset it all new … if and WHEN I have the time.

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Post #14 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:11 am 
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Bonobo wrote:
daal wrote:
Anyone know how to stop the text from turning red every time it gets moused over?
Not with the ePub. And yeah, terrible web design.

But I’m in the process of creating PDFs (and eventually combining them into one PDF file) from the pages to be found here, and in the resulting PDFs this is gone. The simple chapter pages are easy, but the problem and solution pages are a PITA and I’ll have to edit the files to prevent eye bleeding.

Greetings, Tom

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While I had the edit window open for over an hour, you wrote:
SoDesuNe wrote:
I converted Bradley's book into pdfs a while back because I likewise thought the presentation with the changing colours is not ideal. I never read it though but it sounds interesting.

The pdfs are in horizontal format because it was easier this way to fit in all the diagrammes.
Oh, cool

The ones I’m creating are in portrait format which I prefer, but I see the problem you mention with those diagrams. I think I’d like to typeset it all new … if and WHEN I have the time.

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Are you planning for these to be read on anything in particular? Because it would be nice to be able to veiw them on an e book reader without having to zoom.

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Post #15 Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:16 pm 
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I recreated this book in epub format so we can read it offline and on mobile phones. Enjoy!


Is there any way that the unzipped Epub file could be uploaded somewhere? I couldn't get this to open on my Mac, so I tried the Windows computer at work and got the message 'File Skipped, Unknown Compression Method.'

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Is there any way that the unzipped Epub file could be uploaded somewhere? I couldn't get this to open on my Mac, so I tried the Windows computer at work and got the message 'File Skipped, Unknown Compression Method.'


I used a freeware tool "Unarchiver" to unzip the file on my Mac (the built-in unzip utility didn't like the file, for some reason).

https://itunes.apple.com/app/the-unarchiver/id425424353?mt=12&ls=1

or http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/unarchiver


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fireproof wrote:
Inkwolf wrote:
Is there any way that the unzipped Epub file could be uploaded somewhere? I couldn't get this to open on my Mac, so I tried the Windows computer at work and got the message 'File Skipped, Unknown Compression Method.'


I used a freeware tool "Unarchiver" to unzip the file on my Mac (the built-in unzip utility didn't like the file, for some reason).

https://itunes.apple.com/app/the-unarchiver/id425424353?mt=12&ls=1

or http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/unarchiver


Thanks, Fireproof. I actually did try that after a Google search, but it didn't work for me. It only made the weird-format file that the zip turned into appear inside of a folder.

It's okay, Bonobo gave me the e-pub file, and now I can read it on my little Android tablet's e-reader program next time nobody but me turns up for Go club. :D

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Post #18 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:42 pm 
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Thanks to everybody for preserving the excellent book of Milton Bradley in the public domain!
I have recently found out that the original webpage (containing a bunch of great essays on go and critical thinking as well) is not available. It was temporary unavailable before, too.
Anybody has a copy of other stuff from the site?
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Post #19 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:56 pm 
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That page must have disappeared very recently. It is less than a month since I was looking at it. Has the content been preserved anywhere or did the domain just expire? It has been three years since Milt died so maybe it was just paid that far in advance.

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Post #20 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:59 pm 
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geogo wrote:
[..] I have recently found out that the original webpage [..] is not available. It was temporary unavailable before, too.
Too sad. But …

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Anybody has a copy of other stuff from the site?
Not me, but … thank heavens for archive.org and the wayback machine, click July 17 (2012) :-)

HTH, Tom


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And here’s a link to the archived version of the page mentioned in the OP, from May 16, 2013.

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