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Post #21 Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:23 pm 
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You talking to me? You talking to me?
Well I'm the only one here. Who the f*@! do you think you're talking to?

scnr. But seriously, if my post wasn't the only one you could possibly be addressing I wouldn't have guessed you were talking to me.

I'm also not really sure what point you're making. The wikipedia page I linked to is mostly referring to the digit-only date formats, which is also the format of the dates that appeared in this very thread.


Obviously there's no possible way anyone would understand only one of "9th October" or "October 9th", the order is completely irrelevant if you indicate the month in its written form.
It's when you abbreviate it as 10/9 or 9/10 that the trouble starts and you need to define the order.

And you can try to defend idiosyncrasies all day, it won't make them any better. The order month/day/year is unnecessarily counterintuitive, as is the imperial system.

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Post #22 Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:08 pm 
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Ok, in utterly simplified terms:

You should not use simple MM/DD or DD/MM unless you know your audience has a precise expectation that you'll use one of them.

You should also not use YYYY/MM/DD unless you need it to be parsed by a machine.

You should generally write 12 October 2013, or October 12th, 2013, (or 12 Oct 2013, or...many minor variations) and can omit the year if it's not needed.

You should not go on silly rants about how everyone needs to use YYYY/MM/DD.

You should also not post incoherent angry responses with swearing to things. But that wasn't part of my original post.

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Post #23 Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:10 am 
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hyperpage wrote:
You should not go on silly rants about how everyone needs to use YYYY/MM/DD.

I didn't? Anywhere? Ever? I'm also not saying that anyone needs to teach evolution (as opposed to creationism, for example) in their classrooms, or that everyone needs to drop the imperial system for units of measurement.


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You should also not post incoherent angry responses with swearing to things.

How did you get the idea I was angry? You are aware I was quoting a popular American movie?
And I felt my argument (which you didn't address at all, btw) was pretty coherent.

It went like this:
day < month < year = happy :D
year > month > day = happy :D
month > day < year = sad :(

hyperpage wrote:
You should not use simple MM/DD or DD/MM unless you know your audience has a precise expectation that you'll use one of them.

I would tend to agree. What does that have to do with anything I have said, though?

Anyway, we should really stop derailing this otherwise useful thread.

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Post #24 Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:18 am 
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Well, it seems that we've both been misunderstanding each other. My apologies for that.

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Post #25 Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:42 am 
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Somewhat back on topic, I haven't really seen anything about Tang Weixing before this tournament, and his Sensei's page is pretty sparse. If he wins this next set he'll be in the finals, given that he's 3d now does that imply any sort of promotion?

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Post #26 Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:50 pm 
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Reminder!!!!!!



11/4,11/6,11/7/13 - Semi final(3 games match)
Pairing for semi final;

Lee Sedol vs Wu Guangya
Tang Weixing vs Shi Yue

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Post #27 Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:04 pm 
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any live stream for this?

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Post #28 Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:41 pm 
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Wbaduk will have it I think. To bad it starts at 1 am my time :(

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Post #29 Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:29 pm 
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I heard KBS is broadcasting. Anyone know how to watch from outside Korea?

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Post #30 Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:25 pm 
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Due to live broadcasting on TV, game started 9:40am Korea time.
So it will be 7:40 US eastern time.
You can watch relay of this game at Oro or Tygem.

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Post #31 Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:08 pm 
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Semi final
11/4/13, game 1

Wu Guangya defeated Lee Sedol by resign.
Shi Yue defeated Tang Weixing by resign.

11/6/13 game 2
11/7/13 game 3


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Post #32 Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:28 am 
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Wu Guangya = Chun Guangya?

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Post #33 Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:26 am 
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handa711 wrote:
Wu Guangya = Chun Guangya?


Yes. 'Chun' is a mistake - which appears to have come from some Japanese sources.

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Post #34 Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:48 pm 
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Semi final
11/6/13, game 2

Lee Sedol defeated Wu Guangya by resign. score 1:1
Tang Weixing defeated Shi Yue by resign. score 1:1

11/7/13 game 3

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Post #35 Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:28 pm 
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Semi final
11/7/13, game 3

Lee Sedol defeated Wu Guangya by resign. score 2:1
Tang Weixing defeated Shi Yue by 2.5. score 2:1

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Lee Sedol vs Wu Guangya

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Tang Weixing vs Shi Yue


Final - 12/10,12/11,12/12/13
Lee Sedol vs Tang Weixing

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Post #36 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:03 pm 
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While the Lee Sedol game must have got more attentions, the game between Tang Weixing and Shi Yue was probably more interesting. Here is the position at move 203:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/37588/203

The game could end up in triple ko (void) because both sides can use the double ko in the middle as unlimited ko threats. But Shi Yue chose not to accept that result, which probably was a mistake.

Then it was the most funny part of the game: beginning move 215, black used the double ko as timesuji (game must be in byo-yomi by that late stage), so he had twice as much thinking time to work out the best way to attack white's bottom right group. Shi Yue had to play W228 to avoid this situation. But even with 228, white could not gain anything from the double ko later.

Finally, B287 was a brilliant move, forcing white to reduce liberties from inside his territory.


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Post #37 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:50 pm 
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macelee wrote:
Finally, B287 was a brilliant move, forcing white to reduce liberties from inside his territory.


I was watching both games and was wondering when B was going to play move 287 because it was sente for B(about 3-4 stones end game.).

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Post #38 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:30 pm 
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Thanks, macelee, fascinating game.

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Post #39 Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:43 pm 
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Reminder!!!!!!!
It is tomorrow.....
Final - 12/10,12/11,12/12/13(Korea time)
Lee Sedol vs Tang Weixing

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Post #40 Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:24 pm 
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anyone know the exact time?

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