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Post #41 Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:43 pm 
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Semi Final - 11/13/13 9am (Korean time)

Pairing;
Chen Yaoye vs Zhou Ruiyang
Tuo Jiaxi vs Li Zhe

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From left - Li Zhe, Tuo Jiaxi, Zhou Ruiyang and Chen Yaoye

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Post #42 Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:51 am 
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So China will win every major international tournament this year.

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Post #43 Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:53 am 
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This thread was getting hijacked by an analysis of the Chen-Iyama game, so I split that off into its own thread. For that analysis, please see viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9359&p=152688#p152688

And thanks to Trout for starting and adding to this thread.
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Post #44 Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:38 pm 
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since the game was played in this tournament, it seems the perfect place to discuss and analyze


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Post #45 Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:26 pm 
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Semi Final;

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Zhou Ruiyang defeated Chen Yaoye by 4.5.

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Tuo Jiaxi defeated Li Zhe by resign.

Final - 2/10, 2/12 and 2/13/2014
Zhou Ruiyang vs Tuo Jiaxi


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Post #46 Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:54 am 
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The full tournament chart is at:

http://www.go4go.net/go/tournaments/sco ... /3-18-s32f

The past games between two finalists are here:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/twoplayer/381/433


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Post #47 Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:23 pm 
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It is time to bring this thread back to life.

18th LG Cup final (best-of-3)

Zhou Ruiyang vs. Tuo Jiaxi

game 1 - 2014-02-10
game 2 - 2014-02-12
game 3 (if needed) - 2014-02-13

This is the first world title to be decided in 2014.

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Post #48 Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:53 pm 
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macelee wrote:
It is time to bring this thread back to life.

18th LG Cup final (best-of-3)

Zhou Ruiyang vs. Tuo Jiaxi

game 1 - 2014-02-10
game 2 - 2014-02-12
game 3 (if needed) - 2014-02-13

This is the first world title to be decided in 2014.


What is the site of the games this week?

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Post #49 Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:31 am 
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It will be played at Research center park of Seoul National University.

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Post #50 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:17 am 
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2/10, 1st game;
Tuo Jiaxi defeated Zhou Ruiyang by 1.5.

2/12 2nd game
2/13 3rd game

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Post #51 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:32 am 
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Was it cold?

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Post #52 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:34 am 
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Uberdude wrote:
Was it cold?

It is evidently cold. Can you see the snow outside?

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Post #53 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:38 am 
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I've just put together a tournament profile for LG cup at:

http://www.go4go.net/go/tournaments/lg

The first final game is at:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/40676

The game is very exciting but rather difficult to understand. I'll see if I can create a few diagrams to explain a bit later.

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Post #54 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:41 am 
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I compiled the following diagrams from several Chinese sources offering commentary of this game.

The most interesting part of the first finale game in my opinion is the following:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W :w5: = :ws:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O . X . X O X X X . 3 |
$$ | . . O X O X O X O X . X X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X O X O , X O X . O X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X X O . O O X X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O 2 @ X . X O . . O . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 1 X O . . X X X O O X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 7 . X . O . . O X . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X X O 8 6 O O X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . X . X . . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . O X . . X . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . O X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . O O . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . X . X X . O |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


:w1: starts a ko fight, ignoring ko threat :w3:, :b4: makes the ko much larger, and white decided to ignore the ko threat :b6: to capture everything to the left side. Now the situation becomes a large scale life & death problem.

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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X X 8 . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O 5 X . X O X X X . O |
$$ | . . O X O X O X O X . X X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X O X O , X O X . O X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X X O 7 O O X X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O 6 . O . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O 4 3 X X X O O X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X 1 O . . O X . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 . . O . O . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X X O X X O O X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . X . X . . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . O X . . X . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . O X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . O O . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . X . X X . O |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

:w1: attempts to escape. :w5: is a bad move, after :b6: / :w7: exchange, the big group is already dead - please confirm this, the shape is either a rabbitty six or a bulky five.

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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O 8 X . X O X X X . O |
$$ | . . O X O X O X O X 7 X X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X O X O 5 X O X . O X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X X O a O O X X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O 6 . O . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O 4 3 X X X O O X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X 1 O . . O X . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 . . O 9 O . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X X O X X O O X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . X . X . . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . O X . . X . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . O X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . O O . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . X . X X . O |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

:w5: here is better. After :w9:, white can fight the ko at :w7: the keep the eye space at 'a' - if winning the ko the shape is a seki, please confirm.

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[go]$$W
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X O X O . X . X O X X X 7 O |
$$ | . . O X O X O X O X . X X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X O X O . X O X . O X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X X O . O O X X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . . O . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O 5 3 X X X O O X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X 1 O . 6 O X . X O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 . . O 4 O . X O O X X . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X X O X X O O X . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . X . X . . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . X O . X . O X . . X . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . O X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . O O . O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . , . O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . O . X . X X . O |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . X . . . . X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

That's why black had to play :b4: first in the real game. Then :w5: saved a small tail first, before killing the corner at :w7: as a compensation of losing the group. The game was still quite close after this exchange.


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Post #55 Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:13 pm 
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macelee wrote:
Uberdude wrote:
Was it cold?

It is evidently cold. Can you see the snow outside?

but they're playing inside

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Post #56 Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:46 am 
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Thanks for the analysis, macelee. Big trades are my favorite part of looking at pro games.

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Post #57 Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:52 pm 
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2/12, 2nd game;
Zhou Ruiyang defeated Tuo Jiaxi by resign.

Zhou Ruiyang vs Tuo Jiaxi 1:1
2/13 3rd game

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Post #58 Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:25 pm 
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2/13, 3rd game;
Tuo Jiaxi defeated Zhou Ruiyang by resign.

Tuo Jiaxi is new international champion....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5TOfH1T9w0&feature=player_embedded#t=8


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Post #59 Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:19 am 
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Tuo Jiaxi 3p will be promoted to 9p. He has been 3p quite a while even though he is among top ranker in China.

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Post #60 Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:18 am 
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Tuo Jiaxi 3p will be promoted to 9p. He has been 3p quite a while even though he is among top ranker in China.


I believe Tuo was the top player overall in the Chinese weiqi league A division in 2013, so he's certainly among the first class of players in China.

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