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 Post subject: Is white dead here:
Post #1 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:14 pm 
Oza

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From a game between Celebrir and I:



Is White dead after Black playing the marked stone. We both belive so but we're not 100% sure. (The position is settled in the game, so feel free to speculate about the group's status)


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Post #2 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:41 pm 
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Looks alive to me

Of course, now it's up to black to hurt the corner as much as possible ;)

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Post #3 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:45 pm 
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Ah, it played out like this for us:

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$$ . . . . . O . . |
$$ . . . O X . O . |
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$$ . . . X X X X . |
$$ . . . . O O O 2 |
$$ . . X 4 . B 1 3 |
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$$ . . . . X . X . |
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I got the order all wrong.

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Post #4 Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:54 pm 
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Boidhre wrote:
Ah, it played out like this for us:

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[go]$$W
$$ ----------------+
$$ . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . X O . . . . |
$$ . . . . . O . . |
$$ . . . O X . O . |
$$ . X . O . . . . |
$$ . . X O . O . . |
$$ . . . X X X X . |
$$ . . . . O O O 2 |
$$ . . X 4 . B 1 3 |
$$ . . . . O . . . |
$$ . X . X . O O . |
$$ . . . . X . X . |
$$ . . . . X . X . |
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I got the order all wrong.


Yes, both the points of :w1: and :b2: in you diagram are vital, so white needs to get one in sente to be able to play the other as well.


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Post #5 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:39 am 
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