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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: L19 Tournament Game
Post #1 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:06 pm 
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This is the first serious game I've played in about three months, so I'm interested in some thoughts. I was lucky to win this game due to a misread.
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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #2 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:00 pm 
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Some ideas. Basically White played well until he got a big wall and didn't really do anything with it.



[admin] I put the sgf in here to make it easier to read - JB [/admin]

One more thing - since you played a 4-5 facing the top side, you should probably approach the top rather than the bottom.


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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #3 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:03 pm 
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That's a fascinating game in the middle - way too confusing for me to comment about.
BTW, I borrowed Shaddy's file to make my comments, so the remains of some of his may be in here.
I may be wrong about the lower right fuseki.


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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #4 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:18 pm 
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The lower right is an interesting thing. I'm not sure how it would go if Black pincered, because since White is closer, he has more options against the corner. I suspect that the enclosure is correct, and the result of being too close is that if Black invades the bottom side, White's group becomes weaker than it would otherwise be.
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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #5 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:44 pm 
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o3 is not wrong: it's one of the many standard moves against the Chinese opening these days (I'm assuming the 5-4 point doesn't alter things, which may be an incorrect assumption and make a higher move like n4 better globally).
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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #6 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:52 pm 
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Wow, really? Just a year ago I only saw n3 and n4 down there. Do you have a game record where it was played?
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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #7 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:09 pm 
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Let's play o3 like it's 1999!



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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #8 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:28 pm 
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What misread? I love them ;-)
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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #9 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:04 pm 
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What misread? I love them ;-)


There were two big ones, one my each color. I didn't realize that he'd have miai of killing the top left or cutting in the middle, and he misread a ko threat after that.
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Offline kyle
 Post subject: Re: L19 Tournament Game
Post #10 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:07 pm 
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I made some comments through move 76 for both sides.
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